The Problem with the Current Political Conversation
This morning, I watched Newt Gingrich on Meet the Press. Along with Dick Durbin, the former Speaker of the House explored some of the rhetoric being used by Simon Bar Sinister er, Dick Cheney, and the President.
Simon Bar Sinister – see the resemblance?
rr-rr-rr! (see Lil Bush series)
While the President has ratcheted back some of the ideas that made me vote for him (like closing Guantanamo Bay prison) I wonder, as I watch the entire debate unfold, if we aren’t being steered in the wrong direction.
Everyone wants to point to what will be done with the people currently incarcerated, and how dangerous they are. Noted, but the fact remains, they are still human beings. Barely perhaps, but they are.
So instead of the vilification of those who would try to treat these people as criminals (which I believe they are), and instead, maintain they are wartime combatants, we should be asking how we treat those who would oppose, no matter their label.
If these people in question are criminals, they should be tried, sentenced, and incarcerated, with credit given for time already served. If they are combatants, then they should fall to the judgement of military courts, and punished, if found guilty, accordingly.
But no one has the right to hold another, without proper judgement, indefinitely, for fear of perceived harm .
This is the crux of the current problem. The Republicans want to be able to abuse human rights, as set forth by the Geneva and other conventions, in the name of safety. Obviously, no one is against the idea of safety, which is the only reason that this idea gets any traction. If we decide, however, that our fear is more important than others’ rights, haven’t we fallen backward decades, or perhaps, centuries in time, where the ‘might makes right’ claim was used, and don’t we lose much of our claim to being civilized?
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5 Comments
Buffet
May 24th, 2009
at 5:38pm
The resemblance IS uncanny. I grew up watching Underdog, yet failed to make the connection. How cool would it be to see those likenesses, side by side, adorning the front page of every major newspaper? Thanks for the insight, and the laugh.
the oracle
May 24th, 2009
at 7:19pm
I simply remembered the voice, and thought it was a lot like Cheney. The mannerisms were similar, and I think those who have never seen the cartoon missed a lot.
Similarly, the ‘Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle’ were great in the same way – young people of today have nothing like it; something that works on two altogether different levels.
Balthar
May 25th, 2009
at 11:46am
Your post exemplifies what is wrong with the current political conversation. Burying the lede under a pile of ad hominem attacks does nothing to engage thinking, concern people into your “conversation.”
Yeah, Limbaugh drives me nuts, as does Maddow… Hannity, Olbermann… you, the right-winger who will do a parody of Pelosi’s lifelike mask.
Thanks for being a bandwidth and time sink.
the oracle
May 25th, 2009
at 12:09pm
Balthar, are you on drugs?
Other than the Simon Bar Sinister reference to Cheney, there are no ad hominem attacks, and that one is well deserved.
If you are talking about the Republicans and human rights claims, try showing me that it isn’t true.
Let’s see.
It is a violation of human rights to deny freedom indefinitely without charges;
the Republicans are fully in favor of doing this, as George Bush, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, and (name your rank and file Republican here) all evidence by their accession to the abuses of Guantanamo detainees;
therefore, the Republicans are human rights violators.
QED
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