I’ll Be Moving to 64-Bit Computing
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After reading a very well written, and informative, article on PC Magazine, I have decided that the time is right to make the switch to 64 bits at a time. The above story gives a very good picture of what is to be expected, as long as one sticks to the Windows family of operating systems. Concrete examples of what happens, and how the applications behave, are given to help the reader imagine the use of the latest change in computing. This is perhaps the best article I’ve read in that publication in 2 years (not 1 single mention of a camera, mp3 player, or any other non-computer nonsense).
While I’ve had the possibility of going 64-bit for about 3 years, as I have a machine with an Athlon64 dual core, I never gave it much thought, as I was only running 3GB of memory, and only had a video card with 512MB of memory, so all of my memory was visible to the operating system. I also was not using any programs that needed the extra room that 64bit computing allows.
Now, I have a son who, when not usurping my computer for his game play, is constantly telling me how the machine he has been using as his simply doesn’t ‘do it’ any more. He has been taken over with the idea of having my machine constantly, as it allows him to play all of his games at levels which make him happy to play, and removes any reasons for sniveling.
The machine, which when I put it together, I gave the network name of ‘Quadzilla’, is an Asus M3A78-EM motherboard, a Phenom 9950BE, 4GB of GSkill DDR2-800 memory (after buying enough GSkill memory to repopulate 5 computers in my house, I have yet to get a bad DIMM, something I cannot say for any other brand that I have tried, including Kingston), and a 1TB Hitachi SATA hard drive. This is housed in an Apex TU-163 mid-tower case, and powered by a PC Power and Cooling 750W PSU. The machine went together like ‘buttah’ and has worked well for 2 weeks of almost constant flogging by my son. Suffice to say it is well broken in. (My son is amazed to not have had one problem, of any kind, during this time and I’ve learned, after a few years, to trust the fitness of a build for anything after his ‘evaluations’.) Also, the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro has kept the CPU very cool, never allowing the core temps to rise above 44 degrees C during heavy game play, and as soon as the game play stops the temperature drops to 37 degrees, or less, within 120 seconds. Considering this cost $20, I can’t see spending 250% more for a cooler with minimal improvement in cooling.
With our budget build, the next thing to go in will be an ATi 4850 with 1 GB of memory, as my son feels that his gaming could really use an entire gigabyte of video memory, and I have not seen a single good review of a 4870, from any manufacturer. It seems there are heat problems, and fighting heat is the very last thing I want to be doing. (Those asking why I am not using an nVidia video card should know the only reason is the promise of Hybrid Crossfire X with Vista Ultimate 64, and yes, I am aware of all the problems with ATi drivers. I was fighting poor ATi drivers back in the days of Mach 8 chips.)
I look forward to getting my copy of Vista 64, and, after removing as much of the nastiness of the interface as possible, and returning it to the look and feel of XP, it will be nice to move to 8GB main memory (more GSkill!), and experience the smooth, speedy behavior described in the article in PC Magazine. I’m anxious to report on this, as the 4 cores of Quadzilla have made everything I have thrown at it very smooth to my way of thinking – but, as with horsepower in cars, “ if more is better, too much is just right”.
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10 Comments
Lee
January 3rd, 2009
at 2:27pm
Congratulations. And only a few years behind us Linux users ;)
Russ Jackson
January 3rd, 2009
at 4:08pm
If only I could play Windows games on Gametap using 64bit. There are a few other things that don’t quite work. But it’s the future that’s for sure.
the oracle
January 3rd, 2009
at 4:36pm
Lee, I’ve tried 64-bit Linux on other people’s machines, and they were not without problems. When I built this machine, I had Fedora 10 installed for about 3 hours. It was very nice, and when I get another quad-core, just for me, I’ll either use Fedora or Open SuSE on it.
Back in the days of DOS 5.0, I used DesqView X, and had a 386-33 with 64MB of memory. I had it fully tweaked, and could do things that Windows 3.1 users could not think of. So I am not afraid to get in and fool with hardware or software. These days, I just can’t devote the time to that sort of thing - perhaps again in a few months. I spend most of these days fixing other people’s problems, and try to keep my own to a minimum.
charlie
January 3rd, 2009
at 6:35pm
I’m using Windows Vista Ultimate x64, and I was quite happy with it, but the longer I use it the more issues I find with it that I have to fix or change my game plan.
I run Linux and windows XP on other machine at home, but my main machine is the 4 bit vista machine.
Antivirus software for the 64 bit version was a pain since the only people that supported it were free online versions that had very limited protection and didn’t offer the utilities or services I look for in antivirus software, such as anti spyware and the likes.
I found out that kaspersky did offer everything I was looking for and was 64 bit compatible, so I chose it, and I’m quite happy with it.
Drivers are still an issue with Windows Vista, and currently I’m struggling with the new nvidia drivers where are very common. The latest drivers from November 19, 2008 cause my machine to go to a black screen, and I have to boot into safe mode and removed the drivers and resort back to the older drivers that came with the hardware on cd. This is a very common card, and I see posts of many thousands of users globally having the same issue, and it’s still not resolved.
I found an issue with he Epson print to cd driver that’s supposed to be X64 compliant. It doesn’t work out of the box and takes a lot of tweaking including using it in compatibility mode windows XP SP2, and afterwards this service is very average at best,
I could go on and on, but I won’t here. I like some of Vista X64, and I want it to work and be a good product, but it’s too temperamental and unstable. I’m using high quality gear, that’s standard of the industry and should not be having any issues.
I hope 2009 brings in changes of good and not just more job cuts. Rumor has it that Microsoft are cutting Jan 15, 2009.
Vote with your feet people, job cuts mean everyone loses, your services and product quality and customer service is affected, so choose the companies that invest in their people.
We have leaders to lead, and most of them are paid very large sums of money, and we are supposed to trust them to lead us, and make the best decisions and be a leader, yet i greed, and people taking salaries and not being leaders but using the company as their own Perks pool, and bank account.
A leader to me will find a solution or the whole of the company, not just themselves and the share holders. Cutting jobs isnt rocket science, nor does it require skill. Investing in people and the company when the chips are down in a smart way, is what i expect a true leader worthy of all those zero’s in their pay packet worth of them.
I may live in a dream world, but if we have the same dreams, why cant we work together to make them happen.
Charlie
Aryeh Goretsky
January 3rd, 2009
at 7:14pm
Hello,
I have been running Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition x64 since it came out on 4GB, then 8GB and now 12GB of RAM and everything works quite well. Right now, all currently shipping software and hardware works with Vista x64, so you should have no trouble, there. You may have to update a few programs which interface with the operating system at a low-level, such as backup, disk defragmentation and security software.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
the oracle
January 3rd, 2009
at 10:16pm
Aryeh, I use Diskeeper, which has a 64bit version, and my HP printer has been verified to work. Other than that, my only worries are the ATi video drivers. I plan on running two 22″ monitors, and I keep reading about people having problems with ATi drivers and the second monitor. I’m not sure if they are limited in their knowledge, or if the problem is really one of drivers.
What is sad though, is that for something that is advertised as Ultimate, is really is not. If I find it unsatisfactory, I will probably run Fedora 10, and maybe use Parallels to run a Microsoft OS.
I do find it funny that Linux versions seem to have drivers that are satisfactory, while Windows drivers keep causing problems - the only time I find the reverse to be true is with wi-fi drivers.
the oracle
January 3rd, 2009
at 10:22pm
charlie, I agree about jobs and profits. We will see what kind of leader Ballmer is soon.
As for printers, I have always found HP to be preferable to Epson for both drivers and the paper path (far less frequent jams).
I had thought the nVidia problems had ceased about 4 months ago, but I guess not. Is your card made by one of the major suppliers? I have had problems with customer machines using cards made by Jaton, whereas eVGA and others that don’t stray much from the nVidia reference cards do pretty well.
Thanks for the comment.
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at 3:49am
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allo
January 4th, 2009
at 7:51pm
it’s been 16 years already, you linux guys need to just let it go already.
if anybody cared that you think linux is superior you wouldn’t have to keep pointing it out for almost 2 decades
blackeagle
January 6th, 2009
at 1:33pm
Why, are you insecure that it might actually be?