Mozilla Keeping Tabs On Your Usage
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Users of Firefox and Thunderbird, take note, you can no longer slam Microsoft for its practices of having applications phone home with statistics.
Reported on Reddit, and later by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes on his ZDNet column, it seems that Mozilla products are phoning home daily with some facts about you and your usage of the product. Someone has analyzed the messages, and AKH has lined it out for us
I found this out a few days after I decided to start using Thunderbird and created strict firewall rules as a precaution.
I noticed that Thunderbird would, for no reason at all, sometimes try to contact a server over SSL. I looked up the ip address 63.245.213.32 and found it belonged to Mozilla.
On researching the problem further I found that the cause of the connection is a feature that cannot be disabled from any menu, only the about:config configuration page.
Look up extensions.blocklist.enabled for more information. It’s present in Firefox also and is enabled even if all the options are disabled through the menus.
What this tells Mozilla each day:
- IP address
- What time you were using the product
- What exact version number you were using
- If you are using any of the plugins or addons sent in the disabled list
- Total number of active users of their software
AKH shows a Mozilla notice of what is happening and how to disable it – along with his statement that he is not worried about it.
I probably wouldn’t worry about it either, however, if this was so innocuous, why did Mozilla not have a pop-up come up during the install process, to advise the user, and allow for disabling if wished.
This will undoubtedly cause some level of concern with some users, and could have completely been avoided by providing the information beforehand. Are some of the programmers getting lazy, or do they believe that the Mozilla reputation precludes any sort of notification?
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8 Comments
OmniDragon
June 27th, 2008
at 3:46pm
Actually, what that means is now I can slam both Microsoft AND Mozilla. I’m not going to stop getting on Microsoft’s back for invading my privacy just because someone else is doing it too. This is somewhat along the lines of pushing updates onto my system even if I have auto updates turned off. Which is what Microsoft likes to do. According to them this is only for high-security updates. But I also remember how they said WGA was a “high security” update even though it had nothing to do with security. Sneaky liars the lot of them.
leftystrat
June 27th, 2008
at 9:12pm
I just went to the URL.
“Add-ons Blocklist
This page lists blocklisted add-ons that should no longer be used with Mozilla products.”
I’m not totally convinced yet. Seems like it might have something to do with an add-on/extension.
the oracle
June 28th, 2008
at 3:30am
leftystrat, I just went there again, to see if possibly the redirection had changed - it has not.
As I was saying, I don’t have a problem with usage stats, as it doesn’t cause me any worry, or substantially waste bandwidth - but the point is…why not be up front about it?
How difficult is it to add the notice/option as the browser is being installed? It’s a matter of keeping the public’s trust.
the oracle
June 28th, 2008
at 3:34am
BTW, I haven’t used a Mozilla product in over a year. I got tired of extensions I liked not being updated in a timely manner, or at all. With Thunderbird, I got tired of the hype about change, and the fact that things were being added that clearly did not come close to working - like when RSS reading was added - and the feed storage would not shrink. I hate programs that don’t do what they purport to do, and also waste my drive space.
leftystrat
June 28th, 2008
at 11:09am
I’m definitely against spyware and apps that `phone home’, especially without telling you. If this is the case, I’ll reluctantly have to drop them.
I like the latest Opera but it renders some sites strangely and doesn’t like the Lockergnome text editor. I love Thunderbird too… I guess we’ll see.
the oracle
June 28th, 2008
at 12:43pm
Opera 9.51 RC2 takes care of a couple of the last little things that were giving problems.
As for the Wordpress editor, I think it leaves a lot to be desired, and switched to Windows Live Writer a long time ago - it used to work without a hitch, but now is not nearly as compatible due to the changes made in the format - still, I find it much easier to do many things than the built in editor. I’m waitng for the Wicket Pixie screwups to get fixed, so that I can once again use pictures in my posts.
MS has some problems with certain things, but the Live Mail product is not one of them - it has most of the features of Outlook, without the bloat. It allows me to gather all my e-mails into one place to read and reply. It’s not often I get excited about MS products, but Live Mail and Live Writer are a couple of winners.
E2001
June 29th, 2008
at 8:41am
I’ve noticed that probably 1 out of every 3 apps I’ve tried in the past couple of years has some kind of built-in “call-home” feature. Many are for licence validation or various features. Most get much more personal than simply checking my IP and version number. Besides; any website that wants to set cookies is gathering AT LEAST that much information on you.
They are watching!
Ryan
June 30th, 2008
at 2:59pm
Oh no!
It checks for updates!
We better get rid of every version of every program on our computer before it’s too late!
This is one reason why Mozilla’s security holes are not as much of an issue, if you let it go unchecked, users will be using buggy insecure versions of your products for years, just look at all the people still using IE 6!