Please… Ubuntu has changed little since the days of Breezy Badger. When will you Ubuntu fanboys ever realize that Ubuntu is not all that intuitive to use? Gnome sucks and Kubuntu is a stepchild. There are far better distros out there for new users to move from Windows over to Linux - Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, Suse… Ubuntu is okay for what it is - a warmed over Debian - but it’s still full of needless command line and console headaches.

Realize this: the real revolution in operating systems is being done on the Mac. It’s a completely different, yet extremely user friendly, approach, which is something Ubuntu isn’t. Yeah, Mac machinery costs more, but the cost of the software is much less than Vista and some of the software like iWork is much better for home users and much cheaper than Office. Also, Apple does wonderful things such as releasing software with family licenses which allow you to install it on 5 computers for just a tiny fraction more money. This is commercially made, well polished, and very well designed software. Unlike products like Gimp, who’s UI only a mother could love, Mac software can be deciphered and actually used by the common user.

So you Ubuntu fanboys just keep dreaming that Ubuntu is going to shake up with OS world. It isn’t even the friendliest Linux out there, what makes you think it’s going to do to Windows what Mac OS X hasn’t? Get a life!

I agree that there is little innovation in Ubuntu. All Ubuntu has is advertising.
I personally recommed OpenSUSE or Mandriva to new linux users.

Regarding what was said in the first comment, I don’t know why you even mentioned PCLinuxOS. It is the one of worst maintained distributions and lacks so many security fixes.
Ubuntu however is very well maintained even if it lacks innovation. You get a lot of security fixes for each release.

You ubuntu haters are just as bad as ubuntu fanboys.

Having ubuntu as the “posterchild” for linux is not the worst thing in the world. One of the biggest complaints about vista from the average consumer was the confusion of multiple SKU’s. How do you think “there are hundreds of flavors of linux” is going to fly with those people?

One people get acclimated to linux in general, they’ll quickly realize there are other distros that suit their needs better.

Until then, having the “face of linux” for the masses be the little brown OS that’s so much different then what they are used to could do wonders for linux as a whole.

I personally use the GOS version (http://www.thinkgos.com/) of Ubuntu for my desktop computer because it gives me the Enlightenment Desktop Manager (http://www.enlightenment.org) by default. It also uses Debian as a core. These two facts help to minimize my aggravation and maximize my productivity.

The apt-get package management system (what helps you install new software) is unmatched in any other linux distro I have tried, As such Installing new programs and updating the programs you already have is by far the easiest and most stable with a debian based system such as ubuntu or gos. Since gos gives me Enlightenment (a difficult program to get working from source), and still keep my debian apt-get package management, I’m willing to put up with not using a pure form of debian to get it. I would recomend GOS to new users as well, its not possible to make it much easier to use a computer then that.

I am glad to see that the community is again taking intrest in ubuntu

Sounds like the new installment will be a blast

I personally dont like ubuntu. It was the first distro I tried and it was not for me. I really dont thing all the hype is really very helpful but im not going to put ubuntu down as that is not why im writing this. I would like to say I use PCLinux and contrary to the fud husam is trying to spread there are no security problems with PCLinux. Ive seen this same claim before and I hope these ubuntu fanboys wake up and stop spreading false information. It really just make them look insecure that their chosen distro doesnt measure up. Dont mean to be negative but this fud campaign is getting old.

So, Ubuntu haters, just because Ubuntu doesn’t work for you, that means no one should use it?

The ridiculous amount of Linux flavors is what makes using any distro great. If you don’t like one, use another. You aren’t limited to one single distribution. So stop acting like you are, and grow up.

Personally, I hate Fedora, but I don’t rant about it. I don’t like it, but its not designed for the way I use my computers, so I don’t rant like you fools.

Endless bickering and the elitist attitude of some of the “experienced” Linux users also keeps new users away.

Ubuntu haters are 14 year olds kiddo’s running PCLinux OS.

They like the fact that nobody uses PCLinux OS; they can feel all special and elite.

The truth is, developers are not running PCLinux OS.
The truth is, it really matters little what distrobution you are running, as long as it is well maintained.

You try Ubuntu in 2006. Then you try PCLinux in 2007 and it much better. (because the upstream software is *newer* in 2007).

If you want to compare, compare two different distrobutions using the same versions of the upstream software. If you are running a desktop chances are Ubuntu will have the best configuration out the box.

Why? Because they have a larger testing-base. Because they have more developpers.

So why not Red Hat or SUSE? Because they tend to focus their efforts on hardware where their OS is preinstalled.

Hussam’s vague, unsourced and unspecific comments are typical of the FUD campaigns mounted by fanbois of various stripes. Which security updates are lacking, Hussam? In what way is the distro poorly maintained? Your contentions are unsupported because they’re unsupportable. I’ve used a variety of distros, including Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS, and have found PCLinuxOS to be quite well maintained. For example, rather than waiting six months for major updates, that distro is updated continually, and yes that includes security updates as they are identified. Also, the repositories are notable for their thorough testing.

Harfy should be released on April 14 - my birthday

“Endless bickering and the elitist attitude of some of the experienced” Linux users also keeps new users away.”

Remember, what’s the main goal here? Migration away from Microsoft. Now, let’s not forget that. Arguing over which distribution is better over the other is pointless, the same goes for Gnome vs. KDE arguments.

To the author, there are a plethora of books on Ubuntu/Linux in general at your local bookstore or on Amazon.com, try this:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_i_1?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=linux&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Alinux%2Ci%3Astripbooks

D.

I use both Mepis and Ubuntu currently. I have used almost all of the popular linux distros from time to time. Frankly Ubuntu is leading the pack by a large margin and Mepis in some ways is even better.
PClinuxOS was not quite ready for release in my opinion. When I tried it it was clunky. I have not used Mandriva but I have used Mandrake and it did not equal either Mepis or Ubuntu.
Distros derived from Red Hat generally had too many issues with installing new software for my taste although Scientific Linus is very impressive. I have also tried Slax and was quite impressed.
But Ubuntu has a repository system that takes the cake. There are tons and tons of good programs freely available and they normally install with zero effort at all.
I consider Microsoft products to generally be junk and I’m not fond of an Apple model where software costs a king’s ransom either.
I suspect that many people will shift towards Linux in the near future as Linux is coming at them from a lot of different directions.
Those that are able to use Linux are far better off doing so.

I’m an experienced Linux user, having used various versions since 2003.

I’ve used Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake (before it became Mandriva), Debian and a couple years ago, I tried Ubuntu.

Initially, it was “ok” for an OS, not really something I was amazed at, but it had potential.

Last year when I converted my very first client from Windows XP to Ubuntu, demonstrated how it worked (And this was an elderly retired couple, mind you) and they sat down and started working with it within 15 minutes of me showing them how it worked, I was impressed.

I called them up last week to see if they needed any help, the answer? “Are you kidding? This thing even tells us when we need to update, what it’s updating. It’s amazing! We’ve fallen in love with our computer again!”

Wow. I’m sold. Ubuntu should be the standard newbie introduction to Linux in my book.

That being said, I have to point something out to the poster of this blog…there are books out there about the command line. There are books out there about Ubuntu. Did you forget to check your library at the very least? I can find no less than four books on Ubuntu there, 2 of which are For Dummies books, which have an excellent writing style that do exactly as you suggest - treat the reader as ignorant, not stupid.

At least do a little research before you post. You ask for something to be done that’s already been done. Has been for like, two years now, I think. I believe the Ubuntu Dummies book is on 2nd or 3rd edition. (Oops, just found one from 2005, 2006 and 2007, so at least 3 years…)

Cheers,
Ghost
BOFH

Ubuntu is fine. PCLinuxOS perhaps ties up with Kubuntu but its advertising methods bashing other distros in their magazines doesn’t really help me like it.

All distros are mostly the same, it is a little lame when you find this ubuntu hater in the web trying to deceive people into thinking their favorite is infinitely better than ubuntu. There are just small differences, really.

And it is kind of painful when people show shortsightedness and blame it of not innovating, red hat and Novell might spend money on a lot of things, but , for example Novell is wasting it on non features or attempts of pro MS lock-ins, while red hat shows more interest on the enterprise side. Canonical has done so much for Linux in the desktop.

If you want alternatives, go for Fedora, PCLinuxOS, debian, etc. I actually like Puppy the other day a lot, but I think I’ll end moving to KDE Slackware just because that’s the way I am… But please, do the free world a favor, and avoid Novell’s OpenSUSE.

SayNoTo - I’d hardly call myself a fanboy. I do know that Ubuntu has done much for the users of any non-MS operating system. If you don’t realize that you are not paying attention.

Ubuntu will go on and change slowly, perhaps too slowly for some, but it does keep up with most hardware, and yet doesn’t lock out older stuff.

As for other distributions, I do like SuSE, not because of Novell, in spite of that. OpenSuSE is, I think, the very easiest of the Linux variants to pick up for a Windows user.

I think that the best thing that could happen is for all the Linux people to wake up and realize how much they could benefit by a switch to a BSD variant. FreeBSD is so solid, and continues to be that way. It allows Linux binaries to be used, and yet it is a REAL Unix. It has a pedigree, and works like a thoroughbred.

As for all the Linux variants, I like some things about each of them, and if we all knew more about the inner workings, we could each make the OS work and LOOK exactly as we want it to - and isn’t that what everyone wants?

For the others - I agree that infighting is not good, moving away from the lcok that MS has on the PC world is the idea, and whatever floats your boat is what is best for you.

It is good to see that there is interest in this - perhaps a small effort to try Hardy Heron when released will further the cause a bit more. And if you request a copy by mail, and decide you don’t like it, PASS IT ON to someone else to try! For that matter, if you burn an ISO and decide you don’t need it, pass that on to someone else too!

As for the person who gave the book references, I have looked at at least the first five on that list, and none of them gives the same level of help in as useful a manner as the Running MS-DOS books.

Whats best?? whats worse?? thats a battle to rage on as long as a holy war.
As stated yes its all about personal preference, and yes its also about releasing the M$ stranglehold.
Books for help… really the best help is forums, google, search it out yourself and learn to understand it from another user’s point of view..

I have to agree Ubuntu is definately the linux os for noobs, heck, I started on it, still use it!! I love gnome! Yes i said it I LOVE GNOME!!!

see personal preference.

Never have i looked for help in a book with all the methods of getting the help you need online, unlike in the days of ms-dos, where was the online help then?? so ya of course the books were better, they had to be. Still on the books.. check these:
http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Ubuntu-Desktop-Course-Download-34250.html

I really look forward to Hardy Heron, the improvements form feisty to gutsy may not hav ebeen leaps and bounds, but, they were enough to attract X amount more people……. there is an estimated 8Million ubuntu users world wide.

I’m using linux for ~7 years now. First I tryed slackware, then red hat, used debian unstable for 4-5 years, and finally - (k)ubuntu for 1-1.5 years. Being “raised” on debian, there’s no way I’m using distro whose package manager is other than apt/dpkg. I tryed openSUSE, and tryed to like it, but rpm/yum solution killed all of my ambition - it’s package dependency resolver has user-selectable timeout (!!!), which means that resolving is NOT guaranteed (algorithm gets lost in “dream-land”), and in number of cases user has to spend minutes just to resolve it - assuming he’s not a newbie. Debian and ubuntu never have issues like that (debian had them ages ago). Plus, whole package management in general is 1-2 orders of magnitude faster with apt/dpkg than rpm.
Then, major important thing is repository size. Again, debian & ubuntu win here too, as they have largest ones.
Next - user support. Ubuntu has largest forums, community web sites, bug tracking system and documentation of them all. I’m yet to find something not already answered there (linux is never-ending learning and tweaking for me).
Next, important for me personlly, ubuntu tries to deviate as little as possible from debian, which means that ubuntu is simply a “front-end” for debian to me - I mix debian and ubuntu packages as I like, beacuse debian is THE most bleeding-edge distro there is - it’s unstable repo gets updated few times a day, meaning that dozens (and often hundreds) of packages are updated every day.
Some aspects are better in openSUSE, Gentoo, Fedora or even PCLinuxOS - but debian & ubuntu are most customizable (excluding Gentoo, but source-compiling can be done on any distro anyway), and for me, after years of using them - with most potential, level of control, usability, support, dynamics and magnitude of software support. And deeper you go with them, more impressed you become.

Fanbois and haters: Stop bickering! We’re all basically on the same side, and although I admit I’d like to see Windows refugees using Ubuntu rather than PCLinuxOS, all that’s important is that they’re using GNU/Linux. Heck, all that’s important is that they’re using an open-source operating system that promotes the choice that has been lacking in the computer industry for decades.

As for The Gimp, there’s very little that differs between its interface and Photoshop’s. It uses exactly the same number of windows that Photoshop uses on the Mac. So whoever posted that comment is shooting themselves in the foot.

rasta_freak, excellent comment about the package system in OpenSuSE! You are right about that. I know it’s why when moving from one level to the next (like 9.0 to 9.1) I would just reinstall completely rather than fight it - yet I still like Open SuSE as I think it is the most like Windows - and therefore easy to move to. There are however, things that all Linux distributions do that are INHERENTLY bad and also COUNTERINTUITIVE, yet the developers do nothing to change it. This is also why some will not move away from Windows. (at least it’s the enemy they know!)

Thanks for the comments.

As Gnu/Linux & FOSS software spreads for sure there will be only a few major distros, because regular computer users ( who dont like to test OS’s and stuff ) install the software wich the “kid on the block that knows with pc’s” suggest to them, and so one distro will gain huge popularity. So the distros that make it easy for the user ( like ubuntu) will grow a lot more that other distros that other distros that are maded for the poweruser in mind ( like archlinux ).

[…] * Ubuntu 8.04 Will The Hardy Heron Bear Fruit? - With the problems of Vista, the end of the availability of XP, and Apple unable to see the light and open up OS X to non-Apple hardware, much is expected of the next release of the most popular consumer Linux distribution. If Heron is indeed “Hardy,” it could be the most important release of any non-Microsoft operating system ever. Ubuntu has shown such progress that many already use it occasionally, and it will only take a small nudge to get them in the habit of constant use. Once a level of comfort is established, the user base will grow beyond the expectations of anyone. Hardy Heron is amazingly workable with little to no knowledge of what lies beneath the pretty face. Ubuntu shows how the open source community has concern for the average user with its Long Term Support versions. Since Ubuntu is free, and not difficult to obtain, giving Hardy Heron a try at the end of April might be one of the best things you do for yourself this year. http://www.lockergnome.com/theoracle/2008/03/08/ubuntu-804-will-the-hardy-heron-bear-fruit/ […]

I’ve wandered into and out of Linux for years — mostly out, because it’s been too complex for my level of patience. I started with SUSE a number of years ago, managed to get my disk formatted, and even managed to get the GUI systems running — although they seldom fit my screen properly. But when it came to getting the modem or the printer to work, I had to give up. Not only was it difficult to tell Linux what it needed to know, but usually the “okay” button was hidden somewhere outside my screen.

So I went back obediently to the almighty Windows. In the following years, I would pick up a newer edition of Linux and give it a try, but I could never make it ALL work at the same time. Last year I tried Linspire. It impressed me with it’s new user-friendly attitude, but no matter what I did, I could not get it to find my internet connection. So I used the disk as a coaster.

Only 2 months ago did I stumble upon the newest crop of “distros”. My goodness aren’t there a lot of them? The first one I came upon was PCLinuxOS; I tried it, and I liked it. But that whole KDE interface was way too much like Windows for my taste, and I discovered that Ubuntu had Gnome. So I tried it, and I liked it. But then it lost my monitor. So I downloaded SAMLinux. IT had XFCE. I love XFCE! But Sam also had a fair supply of bugs and crashes, and the updates didn’t do much good.

So I tried Xubuntu, because it had XFCE. But it had very little in the way of software — and then it lost my monitor. So I tried DreamLinux. It’s very pretty, but buggy — very buggy. Then came ZenWalk Linux. Now that one is pretty, but the whole point behind it is minimalism, and it was too minimal for me.

Next came Fedora. Now there’s one BOSSY operating system. You can’t do this. You must do that. And since I MUST update it, I did — and lost my monitor.

I’m back at PCLinuxOS now, but I’ll try the new Ubuntu when it comes out. Oh, and I figured out why I kept losing my monitor. The most recent release(s) of xorg’s x11 system (7.**) don’t like my video card. As long as I don’t update beyond x11 6.9, I’m okay.

@SayNoToUbuntu

i never disliked mac os, but people like you have big issues and make me starting to hate apple users.

Ubuntu has brought linux to the masses.

Ubuntu makes linux interesting, thats why it has so much advertising.

while i can build a good cheap PC for $300 and install ubuntu on it, i would go broke trying to get a mac.

macos doesn’t work on my hardware it just works on damn expensive macs.

also, if you don’t like Gimp, linux also has Krita which is just as good and free.
http://www.koffice.org/krita/

sorry but go troll somewhere else..

Quote: Ubuntu haters are 14 year olds kiddo’s running PCLinux OS.

Seriously, check out the photo avatars on the forum. We’re really a bunch of old fogies who just like bad-ss software.

But whatever, ubuntu’s actually pretty okay. If know someone that would undoubtedly log in as root with the internet connected no matter what I told them, then I’d send them straight to Ubuntu. It’s a fine distro.

But, uh, get your facts right. PCLOS has developers, they just have a different focus.

PCLOS magazine doesn’t bash other distros!! In fact Issue 10 gives high marks (as do many of the PCLOS devs) to a ‘buntu based distro.

By all means, go to http://pclosmag.com/html/global.html, and find a distro-bashing article and prove me wrong.

Did you know that you will get your post locked in a PCLOS forum for distro-bashing? It’s true. Happened to me by accident. I coughed and it sounded like MepisCrap and I got deleted.

Seriously, we like other flavors.

Oops, dadgum comma! Here http://pclosmag.com/html/global.html

Not bashing other distros? Besides that this PCLOS magazine is “developed” with notepad.exe, they are praising it’s OS and bashing others, look at:
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page02.html
I mean, even retard in pension would call this test a FAKE. It’s so unoriginal and shallow that it’s not even funny. Keep on the good work (attracting 10-years old), and keep on bashing :)

Hey 10 year old rasta_freak
heres reality for you
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8745257437.html
from what linus says it sounds like the users of your distro are more like 10 year olds or at least fairly incapable of running their own computers.
Just take your childish trolling back to your distro for kids. Im at least glad that PCLinux is making you so insecure. Normally I dont respond to fools but to have an obvious teenager calling others 10 year olds seems pretty absurd. But I guess to a 15 year old calling someone a 10 year old must seem like a pretty serious insult. Grow up and try an adults distro there are plenty available and almost all are superior to ubuntu.

itsgregman:
Just FYI, I’m debian user for 6+ years which means, while i was doing linux the hard way (CLI), you must have been waiting for click-and-play distro. Glad you found that in PCLOS. It’s just that all other distros - except Ubuntu (and debian), with you and users like you - they keep on bashing other distros. Ubuntu doesn’t do that - it doesn’t have inferiority complex and it doesn’t go around screaming “we are the best”. Users and media do that sometimes, true. But PCLOS and others (except SUSE maybe) - they do it on their own sites. So tell me, who’s more mature? The one that is the top distro for years and not being jealous and not telling of other distros’ inferiorities, or one that’s been around from day-before-yesterday and crying how it’s the best of the best, faking distrowatch.com charts, and begging people to make a switch from other distro? If PCLOS ever grows up, and starts playing nice and fair, I might try it out, otherwise, I’ll just leave it to kids like you (or mentally undeveloped).
And about Linus - if you knew him more that you do, you’d know that one day he’ll tell all the best words about something, and few days after he’ll likely tell all the worst. So trust his coding/maintaining, and not his words, kiddo.

rasta_freak
I probably shount have responded as I did. I was tired and after all the snipes I see ubuntu user make about PCLinux I over reacted. I just thought the 10 year old comment were a little imature for someone who seems to champion a distro supposedly for new users to linux. Also just because the first distro I used was ubuntu and I found it uninspiring and the software from the repos buggy doesnt mean thats the experience everyone would have. And I have to say that I have a hard time believing youve been in Linux as long as you claim or you wouldnt harbor so much resentment about something as irrelevant as distowatch charts. And one more thing and I dont mean this to escalate any hard feelings but I cant recall ever seeing in the comment on any blog anyone “crying how it’s the best of the best”. I have however seen many comment sections on blogs locked because of childish ubuntu fanboys using personal attacks and much profanity especially if the blog writer said something they didnt like in his article. And it doesnt have to be anything anyone would think was even an attack. just last week I ran across one where the writer had made the statement that when writing about ubuntu they should refer to it as ubuntu or ubuntu linux not just linux. Out of around 10 posts only 3 didnt contain profanity so the comment section was locked. I seriously doubt you will ever get that responce from PCLinux users. If you have really been in linux as long as you claim then you should know that acting like a childish fanboy really only makes you look ignorant and it doesnt do anything except cause the distro you think you champion to look bad by association. I apologise for my earlier post as I should have risen above rather than responded in kind.

rasta_freak
just want to add I didnt catch your statement that you havent even tried PCLinux. How do you know what kind of distro it is ? As I stated I at least speak of ubuntu from personal experience. I could say more but I want to end this on a somewhat civil note so good luck and enjoy your command line as youll be using it alot.

I did try it - for few minutes, so I wouldn’t/couldn’t tell I really tryed it. Reason for my preference of Ubuntu is simple - it’s based on debian (largest developer/volunteer community for years, it has strict definition of free/non-free, is not under anybody’s strict control (it reminds me a lot of hippy community :), and it has most proffesional own standards and own ways - it’s one of most influental distros in Linux world (if not the top one)). Ubuntu - I like it mostly because of Mark Shuttleworth and his decision to spend millions of dollars for community distro. You can argue that this was bussiness plan to make profit, but I trully doubt it. Did you know that when ubuntu appeared, everybody wondered for years how the hell is he going to make any money with politics like that? It was obvious he spends millions, but nobody saw any way of profitting back. He gave so much to linux world (Novel and Red Hat are strictly money making companies), so if in the end he does make profit - he trully deserves it.
I really couldn’t care less if default in ubuntu is gnome/kde/xfce, or care about any other ubuntu’s defaults/choices, as it has preserved debian spirit of choice in every single software section - you can make any distro out of debian (and ubuntu), but it’s not quite the other way round (or easy or supported). For me, there’s no linux without command line, custom scripts, hand-modified half of /etc dir, and stuff like that. Plus they tend to make stuff simple both at low level and high level - every aspect of system can be fixed/modified/customized with text editor (in case of crash, or in case of choice). You can argue that this isn’t simple at all, but consider this - there are so many options/tweaks/settings in linux, that writting GUI for all that stuff is bound to take full control away from you. By using GUIs, you can set 10% of stuff, but by using CLI - all doors are open. SUSE tries to extend it’s GUI coverage forcefully, and result is - you get lost in it. Even there, for full control, your only option is CLI (or source code). So all this GUI distros (ubuntu included) can’t exploit true power of linux - and choice for distro becomes based on something else (read previous posts).
Anyway, use what you like, but I will always defend debian (and most of the time - ubuntu), so if you want to argue/rant some more, be my guest :)

People - I am certainly the last one that would want to stifle the free exchange of thought, but let’s exchange thoughts, and not barbs, ok?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and unless you specify why you think something is less good no one knows. Each distribution has good points, or it would not continue.

I think most of us are looking for an alternative to Microsoft, for a number of reasons. If newcomers see all this bickering and sniping, they will come to the conclusion that looking at any of these distributions is not worth their time.

Speak your mind, but be civil!

[…] Hardy Heron portera-t-elle ses fruits ? - Avec les problèmes de Vista, la fin de la disponibilité d’XP, et Apple incapable de voir clair et d’ouvrir OS X à du matériel tiers, on attend beaucoup de la prochaine version de la plus populaire des distributions Linux. Si le héron est réellement « hardi », il pourrait bien être la version d’un système d’exploitation non-Microsoft la plus importante jamais vue. Ubuntu a fait tant de progrès que beaucoup l’utilisent occasionnellement, et il ne faudrait pas grand chose pour qu’ils prennent l’habitude de l’utiliser constamment. Une fois qu’un niveau de confort sera atteint, la base d’utilisateurs grandira au delà des attentes de tous. Hardy Heron est étonnement utilisable avec peu ou pas de connaissance de ce qui se cache derrière son joli visage. Ubuntu, avec ses versions longues durées, montre combien la communauté du libre est concernée par l’utilisateur standard. Puisqu’Ubuntu est gratuite, et pas compliquée à obtenir, essayer la Hardy Heron fin avril pourrait être l’une des meilleures choses que vous ferez pour vous cette année. […]

[…] Hardy Heron portera-t-elle ses fruits ? - Avec les problèmes de Vista, la fin de la disponibilité d’XP, et Apple incapable de voir clair et d’ouvrir OS X à du matériel tiers, on attend beaucoup de la prochaine version de la plus populaire des distributions Linux. Si le héron est réellement « hardi », il pourrait bien être la version d’un système d’exploitation non-Microsoft la plus importante jamais vue. Ubuntu a fait tant de progrès que beaucoup l’utilisent occasionnellement, et il ne faudrait pas grand chose pour qu’ils prennent l’habitude de l’utiliser constamment. Une fois qu’un niveau de confort sera atteint, la base d’utilisateurs grandira au delà des attentes de tous. Hardy Heron est étonnement utilisable avec peu ou pas de connaissance de ce qui se cache derrière son joli visage. Ubuntu, avec ses versions longues durées, montre combien la communauté du libre est concernée par l’utilisateur standard. Puisqu’Ubuntu est gratuite, et pas compliquée à obtenir, essayer la Hardy Heron fin avril pourrait être l’une des meilleures choses que vous ferez pour vous cette année. […]

I see a lot of ignorance and misunderstandings in these talkbacks. That bothers me.

Name calling is for children, as is “mine’s better than yours”. The single most important point of Linux is the freedom to diverge into different directions and flavors, people. Different distros will be based on different goals paradigms. It’s all good.

As for Ubuntu versus PCLinuxOS, this is a prime example. Different basic paradigm behind the development. If you don’t like Ubuntu, be civil. If you don’t like PCLinuxOS, be civil. It’s not like you’re being forced to use the damned thing! There’s something for everyone in Linux Land. That’s the freakin’ point!

All these Ubuntu haters are really just Bill Gates step-children. Not everyone cares what you use. Not everyone is going to jump on the net and download what you use. Get over it!!!!!

A simple “I don’t like it, I use Dipsh*t OS.” would be all that’s necessary.

Ubuntu rocks, that’s why I got a tattoo of it.

I could go on for weeks about how great Ubuntu is and how it runs well on old computers and all that, heres some of my thoughts:

The best thing about is is that is made by humans for humans, unlike Windows or Mac OS whatever, its not an expensive product out there to make a nice impression on a graph and make money for mister executive-in-a-fancy-suit.

Linux is about making something that does what YOU want it to do, not what the big companies think you should do with your machine.

And since we’re not under the pressures of time or money and quarterly performances, the communities of developers don’t cut corners and release crummy, buggy systems that are bloated that force you to buy all kinds of stuff.

Its free, you can try it without having to install it and make a mess, don’t like it? Fine, we’re not here to get a billion users, (though that would be great) we’re here to make something anyone can use with ease. Sure windows and Macs are ok, but theres alternatives if you don’t like them.

i have been using ubuntu with great pleasure for about a year and half now,migrating from dapper to hardy, it is a learning experience. i don’t have much use for microsoft though i can add the system easly with virtual box , still have xp on laptop with dual boot but rarly use xp anymore. Only contribution aside from monetary i have been able to do is in testing these great operating systems and recommend it to anyone who likes computing. there is no need for fear of linux it is easy now and if you like to be in the drivers seat (control) of the system on your machine this is what i would recommend. many thanks to all you developers out there you are appreciated.

We’ll I’m in my 40’s. I’ve used DOS, all versions of Windows and for the last couple years I’ve been playing with Linux on desktops and servers.

For ease of installation, maintenance and the SUPPORT forums, I do like Ubuntu. I also like Fedora. Tried Suse, didn’t care for it. I’ve installed TinyMe Linux on my employees old computers so they don’t have to toss them in the dumpster. It’s a scaled down version of PCLinuxOS that installs on lightweight older computers. My 70 something mother uses Kubuntu on my old laptop. She’s never used windows. It’s easy for me to stop by and update her computer. She can get her email and browse the Internet and doesn’t have to worry about viruses, spyware and all the other garbarge out there.

One big factor thats made me a fan of the Ubuntu complex is the active and FRIENDLY support forums. Balance that to the forum for a Linux server software I use that is frequented by trolls that would rather snipe at beginning users than assist. It shows why Ubuntu works, it’s a platform for adults.

Ahem… all this infighting….Just thought I would add my 2 cents… newbie here, using linux for 2.5 years. Started with debian, then redhat, mandriva and tried to install a few others with no success. Always came back to Ubuntu….. so I say to you… if Ubuntu is (arguably) the best distro for biginners let’s support it. As/if people become educated they can then choose a distro more for their needs. I just downloaded and am using the beta heron on my laptop and am so far impressed. Yes there are problems, my internet keeps cutting out, my second (19″)monitor only clones my 15″ laptop but I’m guessing in the next few weeks these problems will be worked out. “please can’t we all just get along: ;-)