Jay Leno: King of Late Night ?
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On AOL today a rather large fuss was being made over the fact that Jay Leno has been hosting “The Tonight Show” for 15 years. There are various factoids on the page, but also there are the questions to the reader about Leno as ranked among the all-time late night hosts.
I ranked him at 5 out of the eight that were available as choices. The other choices were Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Conan O’Brien, Jon Stewart, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, and Craig Ferguson. I don’t necessarily think these all belong in the top eight, but those were the available choices. There was no space for a write-in.
Others who had taken the survey agreed with me only on who was number one. Johnny Carson wasn’t the man who invented late night, but he certainly perfected it. My son wasn’t born when Johnny passed the baton to Leno, so he has little idea of what a difference there is between the late night of yesteryear and today. I try to find ‘The Best of Carson’ when it is on so I can TiVo it and he can appreciate what a phenomenal host and comedian Carson was. This is why he might never be equaled.
Johnny Carson was as adept at interviewing the guests as he was at doing anything else on the show. With Jay Leno, the monologue has been and will continue to be, the jewel of the show. There is no doubt that Leno is a great stand up comedian, especially when you add in the constraints of the NBC censors. For this type of audience, Leno has only one better, and you know that’s Johnny.
Jay is a personable guy, and I’m sure I’d love to spend time with him, as I know our mutual love of the automobile would keep us talking for hours. But where the jokes end on the show, the let down starts. Jay has never been a really comfortable interviewer, and it shows. At this late date, I doubt we will see any progress in this area. The guests know, and can sense, his reticence to ask tough questions, or to attempt to see into the life behind the scenes of any of his guests. He tries to break up the conversation with laughter, but instead of making the mood light and getting the guest to open up, he just makes them laugh, and then it’s back to more uneasiness.
The other fixtures of the show revolve around his sense of humor, and although great, the Monday night newspaper foibles don’t keep interest up for the rest of the week.
Another question in the article was did NBC make the right choice with Leno, over David Letterman. Almost 90% said yes, and I must agree, but only because the decision was made with the available information of 1992. If the decision process could have gone forward in time to today, I believe we would see Letterman or perhaps someone else as host now. In 1992, David Letterman was more raw, in the unfinished sense, and wasn’t ready for 11:30. Today, he is much more at ease with himself, and has surrounded himself with great people who make him the one to watch after the jokes are over. Leno is still the better stand-up, but once seated Letterman is the master. He is more comfortable in the role of interviewer, and can make the comforting joke for any ill-at-ease guest to return to the conversation. He makes the guests realize he cares about what they say, and appears more often than not to be interested. This enables Letterman to carry the hour in a much better fashion than Leno.
My actual choice for the number two on the all-time list was only rated number 5 by the rest of the respondents. I believe he is the one who should have a late night berth when a change is made. It appears that Conan O’Brien has been chosen to replace Jay and on that day, NBC late night ratings will drop like the Hindenberg after the fire alarm. He is so variable, being funny to the extent you almost hurt from laughing, and then there will be a drought, and you wonder why you tuned in for days at a time. Not the kind of person you want after all the bad news at 11 p.m. My choice at number 2 is Jon Stewart, who is unbelievably funny and appears to be well-read and capable of deep thought. This is what we need at 11:30. Someone who can make the pain of the news go away and speak with many guests at their level. Apparently he will have to replace Letterman.
The entire list as voted on by the visitors to the page goes as follows:
Carson [1], Leno [2], Letterman [3], Conan O’Brien [4], Jon Stewart [5], Jimmy Kimmel [6], Stephen Colbert [7], and Craig Ferguson [8].
My ranking:
Carson [1], Jon Stewart [2], Letterman [3], Craig Ferguson [4], Leno [5], Stephen Colbert [6], Conan O’Brien [7], and Jimmy Kimmel [8].
I must say I do think Craig Ferguson is being penalized by being the ‘new kid on the block’, and why Jimmy Kimmel is not last I have no clue. To my way of thinking he is not funny, and although there are apocryphal tales of intellect, it doesn’t seem to show on camera.
So it would appear that we all want Johnny back, but since that isn’t possible, Leno, for most, will have to do.
[tags]late night television, talk show, carson[/tags]

5 Comments
jafer
July 4th, 2007
at 2:02pm
I disagree that Johnny Carson was funnier, I usually found him pretty corny and only appreciated the corniness when he’d end up laughing at himself. Jay Leno does seem comfortable to me in his interviews and I appreciate when he gets a kick out of something that his interviewee also finds funny. I don’t find any uncomfortable, awkward silences.
While Johnny was amusing, sometimes his one-liners were just boring - as are some of Leno’s one-liners, but I guess that’s what happens when you have others writing for you.
I do appreciate Conan O’Brien’s sense of humour too, although sometimes he goes over the edge with the obvious. However, with that said, he can almost always make me smile when watching his show.
the oracle
July 4th, 2007
at 4:36pm
jafer, your comment makes me wonder how much of Johnny you’ve seen. If you think the jokes were corny, that’s your opinion [and you are certainly entitled] but you must remember that he was working within the times he lived, and the censorship that was much more prevalent then.
Today, Leno says things that make me uncomfortable when my children happen to be watching. Just a difference in the times, I guess. I am of the opinion that time moving forward does not necessarily indicate progress.
As for Conan O’Brien, when he takes over for Jay, I doubt I’ll ever turn there unless he has someone on I really want to see.
Natalie Davis
November 17th, 2007
at 12:17pm
Leno better than Letterman? Perhaps for an unsophisticated audience of Amurricans. Johnny Carson, number one for sure. Two, Carson’s true successor, David Letterman, or Jon Stewart (mileage varies even among the intelligent; I’m a Dave gal, but Stewart rocks too). Four, Craig Ferguson (sooo smart, sooo wickedly funny - esp. when adlibbing what is consistently the best monologue in late night - and sooo sadly underrated). Five, Stephen “Truthiness” Colbert (I’d vote for him before Hillary or Rudy or Obama or Romney). Six, Conan O’Brien (he should be an improvement over the disgusting Leno at 11:30). Seven, the execrable Jay Leno (I have never been able to abide that apparently brainless, mainstream fellating, lowest-common-denominator-pandering idiot; NBC deserves its failures). Eight, Kimmel (only one thing going for him - Sarah Silverman).
Natalie Davis
November 17th, 2007
at 12:26pm
Oh, and I have been a comedy fan for decades. Leno may have been a better standup than Letterman in the late 70s and early 80s, when Dave was new to the LA scene and first hit the Comedy Store, but that SO is not the case now. Leno got the NBC gig over Leno because of his evil then-manager and because California-based NBC execs were all about making John and Jane Six-Pack happy. They effed up then — and Bob Wright and Jack Welch admitted it. They should have elevated Letterman. Carson knew it, Bob Wright knew it, East Coast NBC execs knew it, and comedy fans with more than a modicum of brains knew it. Ratings be damned - everyone knows the general IQ of American TV watchers is frighteningly and embarrassingly low - talk to intelligent people. They’ll tell you that Leno does not and can not hold a candle to David Letterman in any way that matters. OK, maybe he is a nice fellow, but so is my 11-year-old son. Should he be crowned King of Late Night? I think not - and my kid can do more intelligent, incisive and amusing standup than the tired mainstreamer Jay Leno. Is it time for Conan to take over “Tonight” yet? Can’t wait.
the oracle
November 21st, 2007
at 9:10pm
Natalie, thanks for reading something from so far back! I always get amazed when someone comments on something from so far back in time.
It appears we agree about Letterman, but I can’t help thinking your second comment is showing a preference for Conan. To me, he is still not ready to take over - I only watch him when Craig Ferguson has no one on I want to see. Conan is even more sporadic than Letterman used to be with good moments. Also, a lot of what he thinks is funny is annoying to me. I don’t think letting him take over when Leno goes is a good idea. Again, I think Jon Stewart is the man. Although I also thought that CBS screwed up by giving the late, late spot to Craig Ferguson - he has redeemed himself somewhat - but a better choice would have been D.L. Hughley.