Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer
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The time has come to dump Internet Explorer. I know, I know - you may have heard the same thing before from those that think it’s cool to hate Microsoft; but I’m not one of those guys. I’m actually an MCSE and I happen to like quite a few of Microsoft’s products. Rather than lump me into the Microsoft-basher category, consider for a moment why you use the browser you use, and humor me by entertaining the notion - if even for a second - that switching to another might be worth your while.
My argument is simple: the benefits of using IE are too few - and the faults too great - to put off the adoption of an alternative any longer.
Security
Since information security is my hobby/job/obsession, this particular topic is near and dear to my heart. Just about everyone reading this has seen computers that have been beaten down with spyware - the evil junk that hijacks IE and renders a system virtually useless. How many times have you been called to a family member’s house to clean up their system? Or had to call your techie friend to come clean yours? It’s often quite awkward - the system slows to a crawl and every other mouse click conjures up some species of perverse, obscene image. What most people don’t realize, however, is that there is a very simple and powerful way to defend your system (and/or the systems of your loved ones) in one fell swoop.
Don’t use Internet Explorer.
What makes other browsers better than IE at protecting vs. spyware and other attacks? Well, it’s simple really - most other browsers don’t make it so easy to install malicious software on your system without you knowing about it. IE makes it relatively trivial through two features called ActiveX and Active Scripting. These technologies were designed specifically for the purpose of giving Web sites more control over a user’s computer. Unfortunately, as we have seen with exploit after exploit - that’s not always a good thing.
In addition to the spyware issues, IE in general has had a terrible track record when it comes to all types of serious security issues. For years now, it’s seemed like every time you turn around there is a new way to have your computer taken over via Internet Explorer. Put “internet explorer” and “allow an attacker to execute commands” (with the quotes) into Google and you’ll see what I mean.
In IE’s defense, many anti-Microsoft types will claim that it’s not possible to lock down IE at all. This is not true. It is possible - but if and only if you have a fair amount of technical know-how on the subject, and the time to do it. My personal view, however, is that tools such as Internet browsers should not require expertise and configuration time to be able to use them safely.
Standards
This is likely to get me in some hot water with my fellow security enthusiasts, but I find this issue to be of even more concern than that of IE’s security. The Internet works for one simple reason - everything at its core has been built on agreements that bind it together. Whether a computer is connected from California or Sri Lanka, it’s going to speak the same language and obey the same rules - the rules defined by standards. If this weren’t the case there would be no Internet at all. These agreements are forged by a body of people whose goal is nothing short of designing a better and more efficient Internet for everyone. Microsoft, for some odd reason, seems bent on breaking stride with these agreed-upon standards. Case in point: the next time you’re in a bookstore, head over to the technology section and pick up a book on XHTML or CSS. These are two major Web standards that deal with how Web pages are displayed to users, and within any book on the subjects you will find one common theme:
The absolute worst browser when it comes to supporting the standards is Internet Explorer.
Page after page in these books will reveal features supported in other browsers, but not in IE. Ask yourself why a company would choose not to support standards that benefit everyone? The way I see it, it’s for precisely one of two reasons - either they are unable to, or they don’t want to. Given the fact that they are a multi-billion dollar company (one of the richest on the planet), I can’t help but lean toward the second option. Without going into too much detail (See Longhorn), they have their own plans, and those plans involve implementing their own standard and forcing it upon the world. Call me a geek/hippie, but the idea of a multi-billion dollar corporation snubbing its nose at agreed-upon standards is nothing short of infuriating.
Options
Lucky for us, we have alternatives. The good news is that the alternative browsers are actually as good or better than IE. There are many out there, but in my opinion the Mozilla products are the best. I personally prefer and recommend Mozilla Firefox. Not only does it keep your browsing sessions a lot more secure and spyware-free, but it also supports the standards religiously and has a wide range of powerful features. Arguably the biggest benefit to using a Mozilla-based product is something called tabbed browsing. What this allows you to do is have multiple pages open within a single browser window. Rather than going from window to window in the taskbar, you can simply switch between clearly visible tabs, all within the same view. You can even do this and many other commands via the keyboard if you are into that sort of thing.
Using Firefox will not require any major shift in your daily browsing habits. It’ll import your favorites automatically, and you can benefit from the improved security starting the first time you open it. With the popup blocking enabled, you can breath quite a bit easier when browsing to unknown sites. Attempts to install garbage on your system that could have easily succeeded if you were using IE will simply be ignored by Firefox. Plus, the whole time you’re browsing you’ll know that you are doing your part to keep the soul of the Internet alive by choosing to use a browser whose developers actually care about standards.
Of course, I still use IE. (pause for effect) …it’s how I get my Windows security updates. : Seriously though - Windows Update is a must, and it only works in IE, so that in itself is a good reason to fire up IE once in a while. Aside from Windows Update though, there is still the occasional site that I go to that doesn’t look right in any other browser. Those sites, by the way, are all the more reason to not use IE. They weren’t written according to the standards, and they look bad in any browser other than IE as a result of that fact. Using IE all the time just because the occasional site is designed so poorly as to look like crap in other browsers is utterly bad form. I implore you not to give into this temptation.
Wrapping It Up
So, in closing, I leave you with two thoughts:
- Due to the combination of ActiveX, scripting, and its integration with the Windows operating system, Internet Explorer is more vulnerable to attack than many other browsers.
- The designers of Internet Explorer have purposely turned their back on the standards designed to benefit the Internet as a whole. They have done this for years, continue to do it today, and appear to have nothing but their own interests at heart.
I ask that you consider these points and pull down a copy of Firefox, Opera, or another alternative browser. Run it for a week and see how it feels. As mentioned above, I personally recommend Firefox due to its excellent development team and large user base. Once you have had some time to get to know your new onramp to the Web, I think you’ll find that you’ll wish you had switched sooner. No longer will you have to worry about garbage clogging up your system because of your browser, or having to make a mad rush for a patch every time an IE vulnerability is released.
Finally, and most importantly - spread the word. It’s time now for us to put alternative browsers on the map and let it be known that we are aware of our choices. We need not settle for what we are being fed when there are better, more secure alternatives out there.
If you have any questions, feel my position is flawed, or would just like to give some feedback, I can be reached at daniel@dmiessler.com.

106 Comments
Ralph Emerson
October 10th, 2006
at 9:39pm
Good talk, didn’t see that one coming…
You’re asking us to go for what is better, and I am saying we do not care. IE hasn’t given me issues - so why fix something that is not broken?
Ralph.
Sjaak
October 16th, 2006
at 6:32am
IE is the worst browser ever for any Web designer! It messes up your pages and you have to make it up all over again for IE. I say let’s boycott IE!
Crass Casualty » Blog Archive » My Stuff (hardware/software)
October 16th, 2006
at 11:46am
[...] I don’t use Internet Explorer unless I have to. Why? http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/news/2004/06/15/why-you-should-dump-internet-explorer/ [...]
suchdevs
November 23rd, 2006
at 11:35am
I have been firefox for last year and a half now, and realize what all I was missing earlier…
Its true, IE is crap. NO REASON AT ALL to use IE, except for Windows Update.
As for the part of the world that does not see anything broken, come out and see the world!
reggie
December 3rd, 2006
at 2:11pm
great article. i’m going to use it in an argumentative paper for my english 111c course. I love firefox and have been using it for a while now.
Robert Gentile
December 8th, 2006
at 1:17pm
As a web developer who uses Firefox but needs to check sites in IE too, I found the Firefox extension IE Tab very useful. It opens up IE in a Firefox tab.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/
You can also find a bunch of other Firefox extensions that make web development a lot easier at: http://lesliefranke.com/files/firefoxwdev/firefoxwdev.htm
ht
December 11th, 2006
at 1:05pm
i use both opera and firefox… firefox is definetely more user friendlly and definetely a good browser but opera is a powerhouse… very smooth, very fast.
Mr. Talâs (Real deal)
December 15th, 2006
at 11:50am
Nicely wrapped up, could refer newbs to this site. Sadly when not using IE you get a little ‘out of touch’ with Microsoft.com and theire updates. Not that i’ve ever noticed any update thats worth the bandwidt or my time.
I would however like to try IE 7, but it never reaches my computer before i get some installation error, without any possible hint of why it crashes.
(that one is for those saying IE is so very compatible)
Im using Firefox, which is quite incompareable with IE, because of all the extensions availible. Open-source and plugin based browsers will always rule over the hardcoded ones.
Amen.
G LU
December 23rd, 2006
at 5:48am
I was 14, I thought I can only browse internet by IE. once I realised that IE is just on of the web clients. I swtich to the other alternatives immediately.
Firefox. Web client platform should be opensourced as everyone needs to use it. I personally support IE. As a web developer, I found IE is not very friendly at all. It freezes my machine.
James
January 4th, 2007
at 11:28am
For all of you saying that IE is needed for updating windows, try http://www.WindizUpdate.com . It’s a version of Windows Update that works with Firefox. I would try it, but hey, i’m a happy linux user. Now there’s a different article ;)
Megatron
January 6th, 2007
at 7:40pm
I know perfectly what you mean…
I own/maintain a series of servers/workstations/customer PCs, and the ones that give me most of the problems are those that just can’t let IE go.
Someone mentioned IE7.. and yes.. it’s a lot better, then IE6.. but I don’t think that it brings more security(I must confess I was lazy to dig more info about it).. but I have my doubts.
Currently I use Firefox or Opera.. it depends(on the mood). ;)
ImDaFrEaK
January 7th, 2007
at 2:38pm
This guy is a phony. He’s not a MSCE.
ImDaFrEaK
January 7th, 2007
at 2:39pm
And IE7 is far better than any other browser i’ve used.
SLV Dweller
January 30th, 2007
at 8:25am
It took Microsoft about five years to upgrade Internet Explorer from version 6 to version 7. In that long span of time, they couldn’t implement support for an important web standard: XHTML.
XHTML is the future of the web, and the most important part of it is the MIME type used to serve it. Although most web sites are served with the MIME type of text/html, the latest version of XHTML (version 1.1) needs to be served with a MIME type of application/xhtml+xml.
Internet Explorer doesn’t understand this important MIME type, but every other browser does. Safari, Firefox, Opera, and Konqueror are all standards compliant. Internet Explorer is not standards compliant.
I’m in the process of moving my web site to XHTML 1.1 served as application/xhtml+xml, and I can’t wait another 2-5 years for Microsoft to put this into IE8.
So I’m giving my readers fair warning and giving them a mechanism to install Firefox. They’ll be so much better off if they switch.
Brink
February 14th, 2007
at 6:04pm
mwha firefox is very bad.
Im using version 2.0.0.1
It has problems with showing nested tables. Sometimes it doesnt show the page correct and when you minimize and maximize the window it shows the page correct again.
Another problem is that it doesnt respect ‘no cache’ headers. When a page was viewed that has ‘no cache’ headers you can use the history back button to view the old page with wrong data.
Internet explorer rescpect ‘no cache’ headers as mentioned in HTTP 1.1.
Take a look here and see how many unhandeld bugs mozilla/firefox has…
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=all
Stingerblue
February 21st, 2007
at 7:16pm
*cough* wtf are you on about Brink, the link that you posted, shows all bugs, that were posted, during the development ffs, from start, to present, an developer version of ff 3.0 (Gran Paradiso) was released late last year, which is based on gecko 1.9, which might give you some idea, of the scale of development (ff 0.x to 3).
Susheel
March 30th, 2007
at 1:19am
Hi there…
Great post. You’ve been linked to on my blog… http://phototip.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-im-asking-you-to-use-firefox-on.html
Cheers!
Susheel
aljohnson.co.uk » An Apology Of Sorts To IE Users
April 1st, 2007
at 3:38am
[...] Now I know that might raise a few hackles, even amongst those of the geek persuasion (who should know better), and yes I know it comes bundled with Windows and you PC users are probably really used to it, but there’s no getting around the fact that it’s poorly designed, renders web sites incorrectly, and is shot through with security holes like a collander which compromise the safety of your data and leave your machine wide open to malicious hijack. [...]
Dan’s World » Blog Archive » Anti-Windows Rant #1
April 3rd, 2007
at 7:53pm
[...] The lesson learned here is not how crappy Windows or Microsoft is, but moreso that I’ve wasted so many hours of my life dealing with these types of problems, so many precious hours of my life have been spent dealing with issues that shouldnt need to be dealt with. From now on I will go out of my way to aviod dealing with any Microsoft products, be it a mouse, and O/S or really-crappy-defective-non-standard-insecure browser [...]
Mark
April 7th, 2007
at 11:03am
I just want to know why, when I install MozillaFirefox, upon opening Firefox it’s main page is windows Internet Explorer. It doesn’t allow viewing properties. And I can’t seem to get rid of the IE home page no matter what I do, even re-installing MozillaFirefox. Please help me out. Email me if you would. I can’t seem to find an answer on this one. Take care, Mark
Chuck
April 8th, 2007
at 7:18pm
Mark: go to Tools/Internet Options. Make sure you’re in the “Main” tab. You will see a text box labeled “Home Page.” Just change the address in there to whatever you want it to be.
Trollicus
April 19th, 2007
at 8:19am
Read the “Halloween letters” from Microsoft and you will understand why IE is the way it is. MS want to lock you in to Proprietary standards to stop you from using something else. This is an old strategy in the computer industry (IBM VS DEC etc.). Also FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) another IBM strategy that MS has taken to a whole new level. The more I learn about Active X scripts the more I realize that it’s imposable to secure. (Java script isn’t much better, it’s just really hard to secure)
w00t
April 25th, 2007
at 10:12am
yea go Mozilla!
Tom
May 3rd, 2007
at 2:57pm
Microsoft is doing a noble thing. Due to bugs in internet explorer, people who write clean DOM based code are forced to make workarounds. That takes time and effort. That means more charges at hourly rate. That means more income from unexpected sources. It is also the reason that so many security firms earn their business. If it were a perfect DOM compliant browser, what would these guys do? And would there ever be competing browsers? Would there ever be so many web-journalists making money out of stories like - zero day flaw in Internet Explorer discovered - every week, week after week for the past 8-10 years? What would they do? What about all the ad companies who make their money from Internet Explorer bugs? Security issues are few compared to this huge security industry being sustained by Internet Explorer and Microsoft’s policies. They provide employment to everyone. Now with Vista, even hardware experts get great business. Device and driver manufacturers get more business. A whole lot of people’s daily bread is earned by those bugs in Internet Explorer. They run an industry. They rock!
Zak
May 25th, 2007
at 3:17pm
great article..
IE is the slowest browser .. and i left it since 2 years .. i am using opera now and its faster and better than IE …but i dont about the opera from the desingr view..
Thanks alot dude
IE7 Hater
May 31st, 2007
at 7:43am
IE7 is the WORST BROWSER EVER!!!!!!!!
IE7 has so many prompts and questions, why can’t it just work?
WHAT THE HELL ARE THOSE MICROSOFT FOLKS IN REDMOND DOING?
5+ YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT TO ROLL-OUT CRAP????
BILL NEEDS TO COMEBACK TO PULL THE REIGNS ON THESE KIDS…
CRAPPY ASS IE7 BITCHES!
IE7 Hater
May 31st, 2007
at 7:44am
I CAN’T EVEN UPDATE MS OFFICE ON IE7?????
WHERE’S THE IRONY IN THAT?
Hansen
June 1st, 2007
at 8:22am
I hate it - I really hate that corporation more and more.
Everyone who says IE not sucks is an amateur!
F**K microsoft - liberate the web!
«leftbraned
June 4th, 2007
at 1:48pm
Internet Exploder…
Why?
Why??
Why would anyone still use Internet Exporer when a free, superior alternative is just one download away?
Mozilla Firefox is better. You should use it. Here’s why:
Firefox is more stable than IE
Firefox is faster than IE
Firefox ha…
Egonitron
June 28th, 2007
at 12:20pm
A Note to Internet Explorer Users…
Please, PLEASE stop using Internet Explorer, if for no other reason but this: You won’t see all websites the way they were meant to be seen. Internet Explorer (from here on out refered to simply as “IE”) does not support many features…
Leland
July 2nd, 2007
at 4:59pm
Actually, Firefox doesn’t support the standards as much as one might expect. Example! http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html is a test page created just to test browsers compatibilty.
According to Wikipedia, only Safari 2.0.3. (or later), Konqueror 3.5 (or later), and Opera 9 render it properly. However, check out the same page in IE for an even more horrid result, (Laughs at how bad IE is at transparency).
IE7 Sucks Like Shit!!!!
July 5th, 2007
at 4:01pm
Fucking IE7 couldn’t even display a single page, fucking stupid. I used to prefer Firefox but some of the part of the page couldn’t be display. That’s why I want to open fucking IE to display because the fucking page is coded in ASP. I think everything in microsoft Sucks like shit. Those that are behind microsoft are fucking shit brains. microsoft can you just eat shit and die?
And some body save the world by eliminating microsoft, please save the world create something that’s overwrites microsoft, and write microsoft off once and for all.
Oyun
July 13th, 2007
at 1:22pm
I CAN’T EVEN UPDATE MS OFFICE ON IE7?????
WHERE’S THE IRONY IN THAT?
thanks
Oyun
July 13th, 2007
at 1:24pm
And IE7 is far better than any other browser i’ve used.
Thanks
THE GNR GROUP WEB-DESIGN BLOG » Blog Archive » INTERNET EXPLORER IS THE WORST BROWSER!
July 22nd, 2007
at 10:15pm
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surfs up
July 23rd, 2007
at 1:44am
Look at it as Cars, they all have there differences, sometimes its nice to have a big one other times you wish it was smaller. With the proper settings IE isnt much (un)safer from FireFox or Opera. ( IE is the most interesting browser to write exploits for since it is still the leading browser on the net ). I use all 3, surfs up!
Glen
July 24th, 2007
at 12:42pm
Saying that I dislike Internet Explorer is a huge understatement. All of your arguments are right on the money. Any one reading your article that still think Internet Explorer is not so bad check out my article “Internet Explorer is the worst browser” on my blog http://www.thegnrgroup.com/blog/?p=63
IEIEIE
August 7th, 2007
at 8:41am
Yeah, IE sucks, every attempt at dom based scripting always leads to headaches with IE. CSS scripting is a pain. The market is all IE, so as a web developer, you have to support the damn thing.
I couldnt tell you how many hours ive spent trying to develop something around IE. First, dev it in FireFox (1 hour), then, get it working in IE (2+ hours). Its crazy, i couldnt really care about the security of the thing, leave that to MS to mess things up.
Solution, if you cant get rid of IE because stupid people still use it (and ultimately end up paying more on dev time). then you need a work around. A abstracted layer for dom scripting would be nice. As for the CSS and rendering problems, abstract that away with additional script. Web sites get slower, everyone suffers, angry people throw bricks at MS. Revolution !
Steven
September 1st, 2007
at 12:23pm
I have Windows Vista (gasp! the horror!) and like it for one big reason. Windows update is done through control panel. This means that I never have to use IE. Ever! GO FIREFOX!!
An-Outbreak
September 1st, 2007
at 2:52pm
IE 7 is just another lameass browser product that is layin’ around in a while. i had been usin’ IE since Bill told me so , lil’ did i learn bout the other alternatives. IE was devastatin”’ frequently crashin’ my system..took years to open up a blank page and surprisingly froze my screen until i had to heat it up and put it on-a-thaw. folks out there !! its time for a change …its worth tryin’ other navigators and i bet you would never wanna switch back to IE ever again…word up…
Nikz-x3
September 7th, 2007
at 10:15pm
I hate IE, but have to use it as firefox wont download on my computer, I’m using a new computer `bout 1 year old and Win Xp, It use to download to the comp before it got rebooted….anyone know a way I could get it?
Jelly
October 7th, 2007
at 8:47am
http:\\www.firefoxmyths.com
You guys may think that IE is bad. But it is infact better than firefox. I’m not saying it’s the best, but I’m saying it’s better than firefox. The correct order is Opera>IE>FireFox.
Efficient conditional comments » Eric Puidokas » Programming and Designing for the Web
October 8th, 2007
at 7:01am
[...] What’s the number one complaint you hear from front-end developers? “Let’s admit it, we all hate Internet Explorer 6.” “The absolute worst browser when it comes to supporting the standards is Internet Explorer.” “…IE sucks ass.” Not surprisingly, those are all actual quotes. [...]
ron
October 10th, 2007
at 1:40pm
I like FF the best. MUCH, MUCH, faster than IE7. Takes a day and a half to load. By then, it’s old news. Get a lot of error pages on it. IE7 IS JUNK. If you want a good one, go with FF. Can’t beat it…
Mike Guenther
October 11th, 2007
at 11:05am
Great Article.
I have been an avid Firefox user for 3+ years now. I have even just recently written an article on this very topic on my website.
AnishK
October 18th, 2007
at 6:14pm
IE should be banned, as well as those who use it! Okay, Mozilla can’t view some pages perfectly, but that’s a small price to pay when your computer is filled with viruses you weren’t aware of!!!
Hudin
November 8th, 2007
at 11:32am
I find it sad that even though this article was written in 2004 that something like half the internet users out there still use IE6. I’ve gotten tired of it and started up End 6!
- Hudin
Jack
November 23rd, 2007
at 11:20pm
Firefox SUCKS. Firefox is not all that it’s made out to be. Check this out: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html
Jonny the developer
November 30th, 2007
at 2:45pm
I hate you Microsoft. You made a job that could have been fun (web design) into a hair pulling, face humping nightmare.
Internet explorer is the worst piece of software in the history of computers.
Reggie W
December 5th, 2007
at 5:07pm
IE (any version) has go to be one of the worst pieces of garbage ever to become hugely popular. Inept at almost all of the jobs it’s supposed to perform, it’s popularity comes mostly from Microsoft forcing it down people’s throat and making it appear as if there is no alternative. Try completely removing IE from a windows system and you’ll see what I mean. YOU FREAKIN CANT! These people have designed a product with almost ZERO concern for the user. Its all about ensuring that you keep using Microsoft until you die, no matter how crappy it is and how many alternatives there are.
Runners-up in this category of garbage software are AOL, and RealPlayer.
Gene
December 13th, 2007
at 1:34pm
I just got tired of all the crap that happen to ie, having to try to fix a problem with it all the time or take it to get it fix and they fix one thing and something else would be messed up in it, When you got it back.
Scraped it and went to Firefox, No more problems.
cadje
December 17th, 2007
at 1:57pm
IE 7 is tha crap in perfection
guilltoine bug(11 variations).floating bug,3pixel bug and so an on
and now that best bug ever when you have an pseudo class object
:hover(btw one of the most important features of css) with an background-image, the f**** ie reload everytime the image. what a f+++!!!
feature of css is to decrease the http requests not to increase them.
anybody should tell this them,these m*****f****rs in redmond
if the couldn’t buy the sourcecode the have no good one.
ie6 –> ie7–> same bugs
Jonathon
January 2nd, 2008
at 3:17am
Nicely put Daniel!!
I have been doing web-design for over 10 years now, and I have found so many issues with IE that it’s unbelievable!!
It is true that you will find an issue with something on at least one browser, due to how differently they are configured… however, IE seems to take the gold medal in doing things wrong…
IE7 being one of the worst culprits around, bringing in all the new features, trying to be as good as other browsers (i.e. Mozilla Firefox) however completely failing at most things… Firefox benefits from “updates” from Mozilla, anytime something needs fixing or anything, and it does the job 1st time… working in the background to make sure that you are protected to the max!
However, with Firefox providing you with newer packages with fixes… IE seem to be releasing new packages (or patches) which don’t really solve the problem… and if they DO solve it, it simply creates a brand new problem… so… where’s the benefit in that? They seem to be going backwards rather than forwards with the times!!
Not to mention the anti-phishing filters and all other security features that are built into FireFox…
My recommendation… would be to switch to FireFox… only use IE when you absolutely must!! The way it stands at the moment, the more you DO use IE, the more you put yourself at risk!
Enoch Branard
February 7th, 2008
at 9:38am
I commpleatly agree with this…I’m hopping that there wont be any more IE in 10 years…give or take a few decades…
Cuts
February 14th, 2008
at 5:38pm
Firefox doesn’t support my website, just try to access any link on the left frame =C
IE supports almost all of my website features (used to support all) and I dont like Micro$oft…
My site was coded with just the notepad.
hurc
February 25th, 2008
at 4:42pm
Cuts wrote:
…………………………
Firefox doesn’t support my website, just try to access any link on the left frame =C
IE supports almost all of my website features (used to support all) and I dont like Micro$oft…
My site was coded with just the notepad.
…………………….
You use frames, LOL. Get with the times, frames are on their way out. You can get the same effect (a stationary navigation bar/pane) using css.
Yes, there are only 2 reasons for having IE…. 1) to ensure you get infected with virii …… 2) to pay homage to Bill Gates because he is your lemming king. Piss on Gates, he’s nothing but a crook who should be in jail for fraud and extortion.
Open source software and operating systems, Linux for example, is the future. Get with it or get left behind. There was a day when Linux was not too user friendly but those days are gone, it’s now more user friendly than Windows.
anish
February 25th, 2008
at 5:32pm
cuts
use opera instead its like firefox
and also there is a setting for hte java or something which will let you click on the button you want
i’ve tried it trust me
tandy Sean
February 26th, 2008
at 6:54pm
Great article, I linked to it on my site. After spending a few hours making a very simple javascript run photo slideshow I realized it doesn’t work at all in IE. Yet again! This just after spending hours on workarounds for another section of the site to accomodate the bastards. I give up! IE is making DOM developing a pain in the ass and makes me yearn for the prehistoric days of tables! Comply or be destroyed!
Cuts
March 2nd, 2008
at 10:24am
I find it easier to edit separate pages, also its better to just load a frame/page once instead of having to load the same navigation on each file
My firefox has all script options enabled and doesnt work :c
Does Opera still have ads and stuff?
Cuts
March 2nd, 2008
at 10:29am
Someone should make a real browser for once…
I tried them all and liked none..
Firefox seems nice, unlike the annoying I.E., but like all browsers as a great deal of things to improve… basic things that should have already been implemented…
sexy
March 10th, 2008
at 3:28am
My ex uses Firefox. I hate it and its not any better then IE. I use IE and never had any problems or badware.
My ex has so much badware on her pc cause of it.
If you know how to configure IE, you can disable automatic activex downloads and many more features.
I wouldn’t down IE. I do down Firefox cause everyone is trying so hard to make us use it. IE is default. If we wanted a better browser, we would search for it. Ads suck!
If it was up to me I would tell them to use SlimBrowser from flashpeak.com
SlimBrowser is a True Web Browser.
i hate IE
March 18th, 2008
at 1:06pm
i HATE IE! im mozilla firefox all the way!
im using it now…
and will…
for..
the rest of my life…
I am beta for new version
DMC
March 19th, 2008
at 9:49am
Opera. Use opera. well better than firefox. IMO it sucks along with IE however IE8 is half-decent.
Get Firefox… Please? » In My Mind’s Zen Garden | cultivating enlightenment through music, raw foods, yoga and gardening
April 3rd, 2008
at 8:46am
[...] And in case you’re not convinced… some good reasons to dump Internet Explorer. [...]
ShotgunNinja
May 12th, 2008
at 3:41pm
Well, I just want to say that he made some very valid arguments. I love Firefox. I have experience with using and maintaining Linux, but my personal computer runs WinXP Pro. For a long time, Microsoft has tried to maintain its superiority atop the computer world, rapidly developing any software pursuits they deemed important. (Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer, Microsoft Gaming Zone, Games for Windows, .NET Runtime Environment, Windows NT, XNA Game Studio, etc.) The problem with this is that even Microsoft has to watch their funding and resources, and with this many demands from a changing market, they are spending less and less time deciding on the best solution. Additionally, the people of Microsoft have enough time and experience to constantly “reinvent the wheel”, redeveloping their own nonstandardized, “safe” versions of well-known software. This is the gambit of most of Microsoft’s software problems:
1. Microsoft sees a great new software product develop.
2. Microsoft tries to get a piece of XX software’s market value, in what they often refer to as “Initiatives”.
3. Microsoft’s developers, seeking security and conformity with Windows’ API system, attempt to redevelop a system to work with the often-confusingly formatted API. Hence the many systems that now litter Windowers’ hard drives (OSE.exe, DirectX, .NET Runtime Library, etc).
4. Microsoft sees the potential for them to grip the market slipping as time goes on, and they rush to get a product released “in time”.
5. Microsoft hastily finishes the product, and flushes it out the door.
6. People unassumingly try Microsoft’s products, and get mixed reactions.
7. Those who liked original product XX stick with it.
8. Those who switched to the Microsoft version, don’t like it, and want something better ask the people who stuck to XX for a better solution.
9. The XX’ers tell the MS’ers about product XX, and they like it.
10. Microsoft’s product is either adored by those who have denied its problems, or hated by those who have found better.
That’s the way it’s always been. Since Bill Gates was just a Californian punk kid with a switchboard computer and dreams of getting Unix onto a desktop PC. Unfortunately, he started the company with the somewhat emotionally driven, idealistic thoughts of a high-school kid, and although his products still work, just as back then, they have some issues with authority. ;)
dev
May 15th, 2008
at 12:16pm
As a web developer, I prefer Internet Explorer because in my experience firefox outputs differently than how I designed my site ex. table padding. A table within a table somewhat appears differently in terms of border color with firefox. I dont know why but that’s reality. Some javascripts also does not execute well or are not compatible with firefox. A browser should comply to programs written based on standards, and programmers should not be the ones to adjust to browsers which interprets differenly than expected. Another simple error for firefox designers is the exit button for each tab, why? if you don’t notice it (im sure you do) the tabs are left aligned, so everytime you want to close a page, you need to reach and reach for the next close buttons. I mean y not keep it right aligned so that it would be easy to close any tab. Im in for IE.
Computers « Delight in Understanding
May 16th, 2008
at 8:39am
[...] Borgish applications like MS Office included — it does have that insidious weed called “Internet Explorer“, but that can be killed off. All of this can be had for a mere $550 (on sale at OfficeMax; [...]
Jon2
June 4th, 2008
at 8:26am
@ dev
If you really are a programmer, you should know by now that standards change from time to time.
When a certain scripting procedure needs to be improved (ie. functionality, ease of use), standards need to be drastically changed.
That’s the way programming works; new standards are applied every so often to enhance productivity.
And Microsoft, as the premier PC corporate giant, should abide by these standards. I see no viable reason for them not to, since every other web browser programmer follow these NEW standards.
Tim Franklin
June 14th, 2008
at 7:50am
I have to say that IE gives me more problems than any other browser, I just finished up some scripting, that works quite well on every other browser out there, safari,
firefox,
I had some friends test the script out one out of two found that the IE browser 7 would not load and came back with an abort message.
This tells me one thing, IE just does not support the current web standards while other browsers do.
What is wrong with this picture.
I refuse to go in and hard code a workaround just because IE does not work.
So I guess all I can do is pop in a warning, if you are using IE please switch to firefox otherwise you are going to miss out on a lot of what you cam here to see.
Oh well, what a mess.
SmashM
July 22nd, 2008
at 5:42am
IE 7 gives me so many problems. It’s very unstable and frequently crashes when trying to view flash content. I’ve never had this problem with Firefox. Stay clear from IE and microsoft altogether
Chirag Chamoli
August 4th, 2008
at 7:02am
Am I a Internet Explorer hater; No, but close. Consider This: If you have ever worked on a design or a particular cool feature for your web application and all went well people loved it and even your boss loved it. All to find out the ##*@@ IE, dosen’t work the way you expect. Knowing myself well I wouldn’t even bother. However we live in a strange world where inspite of the best avilable browsers being free, we still use IE. I am a big fan of Firefox, yes Opera and Safari are also really great.
Now comes the tricky part I can respect anyone using anyone of the listed browser above but, Why still people use IE. It just escapes me. I request all of you to please download you fav browser and use it instead of the Stupid, Unresponsive, Technical Blunder, and Arrogant IE.
Mox83
August 4th, 2008
at 7:23am
I have recently developed a small website for my medieval fencing group, with php that generates xhtml pages that uses css for the style. What I’ve done once I written and tested all of it in firefox, mozilla (yes, the old good Mozilla), and in safari (and seeing it like it was meant to be) was opening it in IE6… horrible. I had to write a specific css in order to make it decorous with the Microsoft product. I had no time to see it with IE7, but I’m sure I’ll have to make another workarond for it too..
You come here and tell me that IE works fine? bah..
Mox83
August 5th, 2008
at 5:21am
Doing some searches I found this site, browsershots.org, that lets you see the result of a site over different browsers in several operating systems. I selected every browser in every operating system (a total of 61 browsers in 4 different OS) and here is the result: my site looked good in 55 browsers and bad in 6 (IE4.01, IE5.01, IE5.5, IE7, IE8?? and Seamonkey 1.1.8, but good in other versions of Seamonkey). Anything else to say?
circularmotion
August 5th, 2008
at 8:05am
I recently updated my old website, writing everythting nicely in CSS, and it looked perfectly fine on opera & firefox. then I tried it out on my laptop with IE7 and OH MY GOD I almost had to go throw up.
It’s a also funny to read books about XHTML and CSS - after every paragraph describing some cool feature it says “Unfortunately, Internet Exporer including version 7 does not support this feature”
muahaha, if it wasn’t so tragic it would be hilarious!
the whole f***sh** about it is that micro$oft pre-installs windows on most computers - and people (more or less understandably) don’t bother downloading another browser like firefox or opera.
but you know, you can blame’em? after all they all think that the internet doesn’t look too bad with IE, firstly because they don’t know anything else, and secondly they just can’t see the hard and totally unnecessary work that’s behind making your website IE compatible…
only way to change this would be to organize all web-developers and to agree not to bother supporting that damn IE any longer. and whhooom after some time everyone would be using opera & co.
but the customer is king - and the customer only seldom acts reasonably… : welcome to capitalism…
How does your blog look like in Internet Explorer ? | ThemeLib
August 7th, 2008
at 7:14pm
[...] to test my blog in Internet Explorer (IE). I haven’t used IE for a long time because its issues : security, standards, options, [...]
Greenseed
August 27th, 2008
at 4:53am
I very do love your write, is one of the many way you can look at IE and know for sure is not good as it should.
For me very simple, IE team tryed to implement they own specification over a allready done specification, this is very bad play.
I add this:
Relesing a software that is pre installed into a OS system and contain MEMORY LEAK, is a good course of action?
IE 6 from is last patch still contain thoses Memory Leak, for IE 7 i don’t know but i will go with the IE family and say… :)
hope W3C will never be a buyable entity, probaly the dream of someone.
The Downwash Blog » I Hate IE
November 17th, 2008
at 3:45pm
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anuj
November 18th, 2008
at 4:15am
internet explor is worst i have to turn off my pc without closing running programmes
Pablo C.
November 24th, 2008
at 2:22pm
IE SUCKS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PROGRAM WEBSITES THAT RUN OK ON IT, IT IS A TERRIBLE BROWSER, BILL GATES SHOULD GET PUNISHED.
Bob S.
December 17th, 2008
at 8:06pm
Internet Explorer is an example of corporate technocrap. The whole concept espoused by Bill Gates and his money-grabbing lawyers is CONTROL. Corporate control for Cash! They want to control everything and get paid for it. The world’s richest man made a fortune on the back of technocrap that will go down in history as pure, unadulterated technocrap. Meanwhile, Bill continues to send his profits to Africa and looks to cleaning up American schools. If he is half successful as IE, the world will drown in Aids and the kids get more stupid as they bumble thru life looking at IE.
Gates and IE are a cruel joke!
My Dearest Fox « Paul’s Blog
January 1st, 2009
at 2:03am
[...] But, with its super stability, security, reliability, simplicity, <Paste other awesome adjectives here> and cool factor; why do many a sane humanoid sail the metaphorical ocean, the internet on a metaphorical ship-with-holes-in-the-side, Internet Explorer. [...]
Jordan
January 4th, 2009
at 12:55pm
THIS IS WHY I HAVE A MAC!!!!!! I SOMETIMES HAVE TO USE IE AT SCHOOL AND HATE IT!!!!! I HOPE MICROSOFT GOES UNDER!!!
STOP MICROSOFT
January 13th, 2009
at 2:03am
I hope a Mozilla Firefox for PS3, because Opera for Wii are crappy and IE for XBOX 360 is impossible. For me, using Linux is better solution, because it is came with Firefox.
IE SUCKS SUPPORTER
January 28th, 2009
at 12:47am
It’s true……….. IE SUCKS LIKE HELL! When I used Google Chrome it just loaded in seconds but IE takes forever and ever to load and even sometimes it hangs once I double-click on it! I also hate its ‘Error on page’ and once it says ‘The page cannot be displayed’ or it says ‘Hi, either you have not turned on JavaScript or you don’t have Adobe Flash Player’(something like that)in Youtube when I want to watch a video. And the pop-up blocker NEVER WORKS! Instead they offer you whether you want IE to remember your password!
So guys, NEVER EVER USE INTERNET EXPLORER IF NOT YOU WILL REGRET IT FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFE!!!!!!
(Latest STUPID IE news: IE has a new version: Version 8(beta) SO LET’S HOPE THE IE8 IS A PLAIN FAILURE!)
u5urp3r
February 4th, 2009
at 4:48am
I find that IE is largely used by computer illiterates that are either too scared to try something new, don’t know what a browser is or how to install anything. I too am a MS developer of many years and like a lots of MS products (so not your usual MS basher) but IE should be taken out back and shot. I have been web developing for 5 years now and it is the bane of my life. Wake up people and download FF today FTW (for the win).
On the topic of IE8 I hope they will turn a corner but somehow I doubt it.
MozillaLover
April 6th, 2009
at 3:54am
IE is crap, Mozilla for the win baby. ;)
hong
April 23rd, 2009
at 4:30am
Join No IE Standards right now!
Promote Web standards, liberate Web developers!
http://no-ie-standards.org/
Smart Geek
May 3rd, 2009
at 12:22am
I use Google Chrome nowadays. It’s much faster than IE. I’m not a huge Linux fan and Firefox also sucks in my opinion.
Kako
May 4th, 2009
at 5:35am
Very interesting… but not much news really. If you take a look at the OSs they build, how can you expect them to build anything right? Luckily, I have seen the light years ago? (As a kid, I thought I HAD to use those things… hehe)
But computer illiterates (and cowards) make up for 90% of the market, so… IE will be king for a while. Too bad for web developers.
PS: This is not a Mac or Windows world… there are quite a few OSs… most of them better than those rather poor examples.
lard
May 7th, 2009
at 11:07pm
Yeah, I don’t even understand WHY they even work on internet explorer anymore, there are loads of better browsers out there that actually follow the standards.
On my personal website if you try to open it in internet explorer it just displays a splash screen that tells whoever is using it to use another browser. It just isn’t fun anymore to design a web site when you have to go through the tedious process of re-coding everything to accommodate IE’s needs.
I think Microsoft should just have it when you install their operating system it takes you to a window where you choose between Firefox, Chrome, Opera or Safari to use.
10000paulyshores
May 21st, 2009
at 6:54am
I don’t know why I waited so long, but I finally sent IE to the dumper today and I regret NOTHING. Firefox and Opera more than fill the resource gap (though I wish there was a version of SiteAdvisor for Opera) in place of IE. Also, there is, in fact, an add-on for Firefox that allows you to switch between it and IE w/o having to install or even open another browser, which makes “IE only sites” and updates still accessable. IE is indescribably awful and there is truly no reason for to be anything but superior, however…….*&!#@$!!!!
Roar the Hargard
May 31st, 2009
at 8:07pm
Good stuff mate. I had been using Firefox for a while. For some reason i went back to IE. Lately its been crashing on me like there’s no tomorrow.. so I’m back to FF and sticking with it this time. I don’t understand how Microsoft can make such a shitty browser. Like you i am also a fan of most MS products.
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July 7th, 2009
at 11:26pm
[...] as I said, IE is shit and if anything, that’s an insult to shit. Ask around. Google it if you like. Even Locket Gnome will set you straight and tell you why. I understand, nobody likes changing but if the change protects your security, [...]
BZF
July 8th, 2009
at 10:23pm
IE is absolutely horrible, especially IE8. Me and my friend did a virus scan on his whole computer and it also scanned the “.exe” file for IE8. It turns out it had a trojan horse on it! and it came from the microsoft website. I don’t hate microsoft or windows, in fact, they’re one of my favorites. Just its slow, a virus magnet, annoying, and very unsafe.
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July 24th, 2009
at 1:07am
[...] On that note, i would like to suggest to every IE user out there – get rid of it. Hell even Microsoft Certified Systems Engineers don’t like to use it. [...]
Internet Exploder
July 27th, 2009
at 7:54am
We really have to boycott IE. I am a web programming and IE really messed up my work!! Why do Microsoft have to make such useless browser? Damn it I’m really pissed off right now..
Showdown of the 3 internet browsers
August 3rd, 2009
at 6:33am
[...] Why are you using IE to view this blog? Well, there have been quite a number of controversy which sparked off stating why IE6 Must Die for the Web to Move On or Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer? [...]
HitmanNumber86
August 4th, 2009
at 8:23am
Google Chrome is the way to go. F**k IE, f**k it in the a*s, and you’ll probably get AIDS.
MSXROCKS
August 4th, 2009
at 10:27am
Microsoft should accept they lost the web browser market but also end-users and the developers, stopping to develop pages for this total non-sense software. This is drastic but when ie 15 will come out, I will be probably dead, trying to css hack my web pages for ie6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15… Come on All firefox/opera/chrome/safari users are using the latest version and guess what ? who is not convincing enough its users ? Tada !! your friendly neighborhood Internet Explorer. Lots of other Microsoft products are fantastic I am a vs fellow no pb BUT seriously what is IE ? All other browser are open, no? So a simple copy paste please and everybody will be happy. Nobody will say Microsoft can not code properly.
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August 7th, 2009
at 2:04pm
[...] Explorer (IE). I haven’t used IE for a long time because its issues : security, standards, options, [...]
relentless
August 31st, 2009
at 1:58pm
[...] Internet Explorer 6 is a designer’s worst nightmare. I won’t go into why, but you can read this article if you are somehow clueless on this matter. While I don’t condone the use of IE8, it’s [...]
The Ex vs My Contact Details « Grunt
September 1st, 2009
at 2:53am
[...] standards: Microsoft only chooses to acknowledge these standards when it suits them to do so, to the chagrin of every web developer on Earth. Additionally, Microsoft likes to actively squeeze out competitors to their ubiquitous Internet [...]
Dane
September 2nd, 2009
at 1:44am
Kill yourself please! NOW!
IE just never stops irritating me. It’s like a bad dream, haunting me.
Sunil
September 28th, 2009
at 10:32pm
do we really need to support ie6? http://www.myhtmlworld.com/web-development/do-we-really-need-to-support-internet-explorer-6.html
ben2talk
September 29th, 2009
at 5:00am
I use Firefox 3.7, alongside the current version (daily updated) 3.5.4. Also Opera 10.10, Chromium 4, Chrome 4, Epiphany (webkit) and Midori (webkit) and find them all to be excellent browsers.
I cannot understand how anyone can say IE isn’t broken and doesn’t need scrapping - even up to IE8 it’s anachronistically slow.
fortunately, I have no issues with Windows updates, as I get mine from a secure repository - I don’t use Microsoft. I’ll consider using Microsoft products when they manufacture vacuum cleaners - everyone knows they suck best.
Azim
November 14th, 2009
at 11:39am
I prefer Firefox than internet explore