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		<title>By: Joe2G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe2G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would buy a PC and load whatever OS I needed at the time.

After 15+ years supporting computers from Mainframes to laptops, I have noticed one major difference in the two main religions, Apple owners that I know generally buy one system as a whole (CPU, printer, scanner / other peripherals) and tend to keep it for a while, where as M$ owners purchase &#039;disjointed&#039; hardware, and piece it together at different times.  The two different philosophies may explain the driver problem.

I have yet to have an a apple user come to me and ask where he can get hardware cheap - they know not to look for &#039;cheap&#039; stuff, but I have had plenty of M$ users come up and start a conversation with &#039;What&#039;s the cheapest...&#039; - of course for those attending the Church of the Penguin, the conversation usually begins &#039;Know anyone giving away...&#039;

I equate &#039;Mac Vs PC&#039; to &#039;Ford Vs Chevy&#039; - for the average user, it is not the make or model, it is the requirements and skill of the driver (or user).

By the way, if you think an apple user is condecending, please have a conversation with a UNIX admin.

Happy Computing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would buy a PC and load whatever OS I needed at the time.</p>
<p>After 15+ years supporting computers from Mainframes to laptops, I have noticed one major difference in the two main religions, Apple owners that I know generally buy one system as a whole (CPU, printer, scanner / other peripherals) and tend to keep it for a while, where as M$ owners purchase &#8216;disjointed&#8217; hardware, and piece it together at different times.  The two different philosophies may explain the driver problem.</p>
<p>I have yet to have an a apple user come to me and ask where he can get hardware cheap &#8211; they know not to look for &#8216;cheap&#8217; stuff, but I have had plenty of M$ users come up and start a conversation with &#8216;What&#8217;s the cheapest&#8230;&#8217; &#8211; of course for those attending the Church of the Penguin, the conversation usually begins &#8216;Know anyone giving away&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>I equate &#8216;Mac Vs PC&#8217; to &#8216;Ford Vs Chevy&#8217; &#8211; for the average user, it is not the make or model, it is the requirements and skill of the driver (or user).</p>
<p>By the way, if you think an apple user is condecending, please have a conversation with a UNIX admin.</p>
<p>Happy Computing.</p>
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		<title>By: GiM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GiM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let start with the beginning:  &quot;Would it be on a Mac or a PC?&quot;

I guess by &quot;MAC&quot; it means a bound of a hardware with an operating system.

And a PC it is just hardware, so you can bound it with what ever you like.  And if your PC hardware respect some... &quot;criteria&quot; for the components parts, you can install also an OSX...

So the question is not quite right... like, would it be an orange or a blueberry? They are fruits, but somehow different, not only one from the plains, the other one from the mountains...

Regarding the &quot;free of worries&quot; of a MAC user, if you buy a &quot;name&quot; - OEM hardware with Windows, you will enjoy the same free of worries, not only regarding the &quot;drivers&quot;, but general usability.  Few years ago I used two different hardware IBM laptops at the same time - each one on a different domain not business related, and all that time I did not have a hardware failure or even a &quot;freeze&quot; of Windows. Well, an IBM is a little more expensive than a… PC and comparable with a MAC.

If we compare the hardware, a performing &quot;PC&quot; will cost you 1/3 of what a &quot;MAC&quot; will, $2,000 versus $6,000, this is really something important.  And if you respect those &quot;criteria&quot;, for just $100 you can add OSX on your... PC hardware.

What is the problem?  Well you cannot buy this final solution from a dealer or shop - DRM... reasons (licensing), but you can do if yourself.

I am a hardware guy, so gi&#039;me $1,000, I&#039;ll spend $900 for a PC&#039;s hardware Apple will sell for more than $2,000 and $100 for an OSX install.

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And I can have a  &quot;MAC PC&quot;.
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DOES THIS PLEASE YOU?

And you can install Windows for other $150*, Linux or Unix for free, anything you wish.

* The later and cheaper options of Windows OSs other than XP are really excluded!  :-)

( I&#039;ll guess the real question is that Apple computer company charge too much for hardware, because OSX is just different than... the rest;  believe me, a good XP install and tweak (!!!) can compare with everything;  the default install &quot;made&quot; by Micro$oft need to be amended a little!  That is all! )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let start with the beginning:  &#8220;Would it be on a Mac or a PC?&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess by &#8220;MAC&#8221; it means a bound of a hardware with an operating system.</p>
<p>And a PC it is just hardware, so you can bound it with what ever you like.  And if your PC hardware respect some&#8230; &#8220;criteria&#8221; for the components parts, you can install also an OSX&#8230;</p>
<p>So the question is not quite right&#8230; like, would it be an orange or a blueberry? They are fruits, but somehow different, not only one from the plains, the other one from the mountains&#8230;</p>
<p>Regarding the &#8220;free of worries&#8221; of a MAC user, if you buy a &#8220;name&#8221; &#8211; OEM hardware with Windows, you will enjoy the same free of worries, not only regarding the &#8220;drivers&#8221;, but general usability.  Few years ago I used two different hardware IBM laptops at the same time &#8211; each one on a different domain not business related, and all that time I did not have a hardware failure or even a &#8220;freeze&#8221; of Windows. Well, an IBM is a little more expensive than a… PC and comparable with a MAC.</p>
<p>If we compare the hardware, a performing &#8220;PC&#8221; will cost you 1/3 of what a &#8220;MAC&#8221; will, $2,000 versus $6,000, this is really something important.  And if you respect those &#8220;criteria&#8221;, for just $100 you can add OSX on your&#8230; PC hardware.</p>
<p>What is the problem?  Well you cannot buy this final solution from a dealer or shop &#8211; DRM&#8230; reasons (licensing), but you can do if yourself.</p>
<p>I am a hardware guy, so gi&#8217;me $1,000, I&#8217;ll spend $900 for a PC&#8217;s hardware Apple will sell for more than $2,000 and $100 for an OSX install.</p>
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And I can have a  &#8220;MAC PC&#8221;.<br />
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<p>DOES THIS PLEASE YOU?</p>
<p>And you can install Windows for other $150*, Linux or Unix for free, anything you wish.</p>
<p>* The later and cheaper options of Windows OSs other than XP are really excluded!  <img src='http://s3.lockergnome.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>( I&#8217;ll guess the real question is that Apple computer company charge too much for hardware, because OSX is just different than&#8230; the rest;  believe me, a good XP install and tweak (!!!) can compare with everything;  the default install &#8220;made&#8221; by Micro$oft need to be amended a little!  That is all! )</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am probably going to flush the installed OS on any system I buy anyway, so a PC Laptop gives me much more bang for the buck. I run Linux by preference and get paid supporting Windows Apps so I usually run a Linux OS and a virtual windows box for the apps I support. OSX doesn&#039;t have any must have apps for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am probably going to flush the installed OS on any system I buy anyway, so a PC Laptop gives me much more bang for the buck. I run Linux by preference and get paid supporting Windows Apps so I usually run a Linux OS and a virtual windows box for the apps I support. OSX doesn&#8217;t have any must have apps for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I occasionally work on my wife&#039;s Mac, and have so far been underwhelmed. The bouncing icons at the bottom of the screen annoy me. The Mac user interface is not all that well thought out, and hides parts of the interface for no good reason. Windows is in general a more open operating system.

My wife decided to keep her Mac with OSX, but she also didn&#039;t want to pay $100/year to license MobileMe, because she was only using the EMail part of the program, and had no need to sync with an iPod Touch or an iPhone . We stopped using MobileMe for EMail, and now use free Thunderbird for Mac, with GMail as her mail server. No cost.  

I could be comfortable using Linux, as I&#039;ve worked in a Unix environment recently at work, Despite this, I really haven&#039;t found a good reason to put Linux on my home laptop--yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I occasionally work on my wife&#8217;s Mac, and have so far been underwhelmed. The bouncing icons at the bottom of the screen annoy me. The Mac user interface is not all that well thought out, and hides parts of the interface for no good reason. Windows is in general a more open operating system.</p>
<p>My wife decided to keep her Mac with OSX, but she also didn&#8217;t want to pay $100/year to license MobileMe, because she was only using the EMail part of the program, and had no need to sync with an iPod Touch or an iPhone . We stopped using MobileMe for EMail, and now use free Thunderbird for Mac, with GMail as her mail server. No cost.  </p>
<p>I could be comfortable using Linux, as I&#8217;ve worked in a Unix environment recently at work, Despite this, I really haven&#8217;t found a good reason to put Linux on my home laptop&#8211;yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Carly Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carly Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people want to get away from the hassles that seem to come with a PC, surrendering many decisions regarding hardware and software to Mac so it&#039;s done for them.

However, can you blame them? Time after time, Macs prove themselves as competent machines for most all computer functions.

In my personal situation, I&#039;m dropping big bucks on a Macbook Pro this fall because I adore the Macbook Pro when it comes to notebooks. However, at the same time, I&#039;m building a new PC to replace my current desktop computer. I feel that Apple has done a very nice job with their laptops whereas I will quite probably never buy a non-PC desktop computer.

But as previous posters have said, it&#039;s all a matter of what you need and your own preference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people want to get away from the hassles that seem to come with a PC, surrendering many decisions regarding hardware and software to Mac so it&#8217;s done for them.</p>
<p>However, can you blame them? Time after time, Macs prove themselves as competent machines for most all computer functions.</p>
<p>In my personal situation, I&#8217;m dropping big bucks on a Macbook Pro this fall because I adore the Macbook Pro when it comes to notebooks. However, at the same time, I&#8217;m building a new PC to replace my current desktop computer. I feel that Apple has done a very nice job with their laptops whereas I will quite probably never buy a non-PC desktop computer.</p>
<p>But as previous posters have said, it&#8217;s all a matter of what you need and your own preference.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there might have been three others others that you have missed out that can be included with the line of OS&#039;s for the PC side. That can fit into there as well. Even though there are not that many people that I know in my group of techies that I deal with have or used yet. But I do have their free cd&#039;s over here and burnt from ISO all free from their perspective sites as well. Take for example Sun microsystem Sun solaris 10 free to download or order for both X86 and sparc stations. 
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp

Sco Unix is another one that you can easily download for free as well.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_OpenServer

And open Solaris as well. http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/.

So please do a little bit more research on it for the PC side. There are about a total 5 different flavours of OS&#039;s that can be used as for Choice. (Linux Distro kernels should be about the same depending on the it&#039;s only the gui interface that has change across the 350+ varients.) one sco and two different versions on free solaris varients to choose from.  

And you can drop even bigger money on higher ends systems other than Mac take a look at Silicon Graphics Inc line of worksatations or a couple of machines as well from Sun microsystems line of workstations as well. Compared to what the prices are on the Mac and the PC side they are more affordable than what these machines are.

Karl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there might have been three others others that you have missed out that can be included with the line of OS&#8217;s for the PC side. That can fit into there as well. Even though there are not that many people that I know in my group of techies that I deal with have or used yet. But I do have their free cd&#8217;s over here and burnt from ISO all free from their perspective sites as well. Take for example Sun microsystem Sun solaris 10 free to download or order for both X86 and sparc stations.<br />
<a href="http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp</a></p>
<p>Sco Unix is another one that you can easily download for free as well.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_OpenServer" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_OpenServer</a></p>
<p>And open Solaris as well. <a href="http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/" rel="nofollow">http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/</a>.</p>
<p>So please do a little bit more research on it for the PC side. There are about a total 5 different flavours of OS&#8217;s that can be used as for Choice. (Linux Distro kernels should be about the same depending on the it&#8217;s only the gui interface that has change across the 350+ varients.) one sco and two different versions on free solaris varients to choose from.  </p>
<p>And you can drop even bigger money on higher ends systems other than Mac take a look at Silicon Graphics Inc line of worksatations or a couple of machines as well from Sun microsystems line of workstations as well. Compared to what the prices are on the Mac and the PC side they are more affordable than what these machines are.</p>
<p>Karl</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love seeing all these idiots saying you need to find drivers for Windows.
When you bought your over-priced Mac (not MAC - it&#039;s an abbreviation, not an acronym), did you buy all the hardware and OS seperately and build and install it yourself?  
No.  So why would you do that with a PC?  I don&#039;t have to go hunt for drivers for my HP PC, they come pre-installed.

As for the virus comments, grow up.  Stop blindly idolizing material posessions.  Every major OS works great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love seeing all these idiots saying you need to find drivers for Windows.<br />
When you bought your over-priced Mac (not MAC &#8211; it&#8217;s an abbreviation, not an acronym), did you buy all the hardware and OS seperately and build and install it yourself?<br />
No.  So why would you do that with a PC?  I don&#8217;t have to go hunt for drivers for my HP PC, they come pre-installed.</p>
<p>As for the virus comments, grow up.  Stop blindly idolizing material posessions.  Every major OS works great.</p>
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		<title>By: VoIP Calgary ~ Windows Fanatics</title>
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		<dc:creator>VoIP Calgary ~ Windows Fanatics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: André</title>
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		<dc:creator>André</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would spend my money on a pc. Arguing about Windows is not a PC thing. So if you&#039;d like to decide, then either do it by OS or hardware, but most of you think of Windows=PC.

I have a PC and use a Linux distribution and I&#039;m more than happy with it. Next to my &#039;normal&#039; PC needs such as internet etc, I am well able to play games - yes, you can install Windows on a Mac as well, but then it&#039;s down to hardware and that is way more expensive on a Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would spend my money on a pc. Arguing about Windows is not a PC thing. So if you&#8217;d like to decide, then either do it by OS or hardware, but most of you think of Windows=PC.</p>
<p>I have a PC and use a Linux distribution and I&#8217;m more than happy with it. Next to my &#8216;normal&#8217; PC needs such as internet etc, I am well able to play games &#8211; yes, you can install Windows on a Mac as well, but then it&#8217;s down to hardware and that is way more expensive on a Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: iVinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>iVinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all depends on your need...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all depends on your need&#8230;</p>
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