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Palm Treo – We Care Why?

I really wanted to care, I truly did, that Palm is still around and releasing Palm products. But I cannot get over the huge string of bad luck being seen here. Okay, using Windows Mobile. No problem there, makes sense for their offerings. And the new Treo is available on Sprint. Cool, Sprint does some good stuff. Again, no issues. But then we come to a couple of sticky points. The price of the phone and the fact that this is to take on the BlackBerry.

First let’s get serious about taking on the BlackBerry – I own an older Windows Mobile device. It was great, did its job and I would recommend the platform to others overall. But to pin this up against the BlackBerry is not entirely realistic as it is also pinned up against other Windows Mobile devices. See, the Treo is offering the end user nothing all that compelling based on what I am seeing. In the end, it is a Windows Mobile device – fine, and why do I care? How is this better than the BlackJack 2 or any of the other new Windows Mobile phones out there? Then on top of it all, Palm releases after the latest iPhone – this way no one will pay any attention at all.

Then we have the price – $249 after rebates! Okay, honestly, while the price is not totally unreasonable, it’s nothing to get excited about either. Yes, my BlackBerry was more than this. But it provided me with the complete RIM (Research In Motion push technology) package, which I knew I could not get elsewhere! What the heck am I getting with a Palm? A tired legacy of denial? Palm stopped being individuals when they stopped developing their own OS. I am sorry, but despite the company falling badly behind, the only thing that made them “different” has long since died.

To me, this is why BlackBerry and yes, the now reasonably priced iPhone, appear to be more compelling to the end user. Enterprise users will continue their love affair with the BlackBerry – your boss is not really all that pumped about your ability to watch the latest YouTube video on the iPhone, sorry. So that sort of leaves out the iPhone unless you are a SoHo user I suppose. And do not misunderstand, the latest iPhones are AWESOME.

In either case, both the BlackBerry and the iPhone provide experiences that are not duplicated elsewhere. Palm had this back when they were king of the hand-held jungle. But today, it seems that they are selling off yet another run on the mill smart phone that has not been able to provide one single reason why the press would even bother to pick up the news of their latest product. Wonder why?

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Not sure which product you’re talking about but I’d probably agree. I’ve had a Treo 700p for years now.
Every alleged update has been nothing more than removing the antenna stub or changing the color of the case.

I’m a loyal Palm-ist in spite of this. The 700p is a stable, solid product that does what I want it to. Yes, I would like a faster, more capable Treo, but I find the 700 to still be better than the competition.

Let’s face it – the iPhone is overpriced, ridiculously overhyped, and can’t do anything the Treo can do with the exception of shifting the display 90 degrees.

Most of the other current phones use Windows. I’ve had enough of Windows on desktops; I’m not going to reboot my phone every time I need to make a call or check mail. This is confirmed by everyone I know who uses the OS, including cell phone salespeople.

The Centro just confuses me. It’s like a Palm for people who require a pretty colored phone. People whose main complaint is that it doesn’t do Flash.

Palm needs to wake up and put out a significant update for their business customers (it’s a business phone for the most part).

Ymmv.

From this summary of the new Palm (see http://blog.treonauts.com/2008/07/sprint-treo-8-1.html for a nice review) you can see that this phone does offer some unique features:

Palm and Sprint Introduce the Treo 800w Smartphone – the first Windows Mobile 6.1 Treo smartphone offering a slimmer and lighter body, fast 3G EvDO Rev. A data speeds, built-in WiFi and GPS, 2.0 Megapixel Camera, Bluetooth 2.0, high resolution 320×320 touchscreen, 256MB user memory as well as unique Palm software enhancements.

Palm was good for their time. When I had my Treo 650 there wasn’t much on the market that compared to what I could do with it. However, since then, like you said, all Palm has done is added little improvements and modifications that only had the Palm fanatics interested. They need to really do something that stands out. The hardware is nothing better than its competition. The only thing they have really going is the combination of a full keyboard and a touchscreen. But there are others out there that offer the same now as well.

Maybe they should develop a new phone that runs the blackberry OS and integrate that with their touchscreen.

Palm was good; I had a Tungsten C that did the job for almost five years; synchronising with two desk tops and and a portable and keeping all their info in sync. My mistake was upgrading to a Treo, thinking I could replace the Tungsten and my cell-phone with one device, and gain mobile e-mail.

The first Treo was effectively DOA, locking up solid after a few days before I had a chance to fully explore the ramifications for my work methods. After some difficulties with Palm customer support, they gave me a return authorization, and persuaded me to purchase a 2nd Treo so I wouldn’t have to wait for the 1st one to be processed and replaced.

The 2nd one worked, sort of; I never did manage to make the security function (lock after a certain time) work consistently. More to the point, I now realized that I couldn’t sync with more than one machine. I spent some more money on a Laplink product, which did the job, but in a very primitive fashion (eg. didn’t handle multiple or repeated appointments). After some more fussing around I decide to give Palm Desktop a try, thinking I could live with the lame desktop’s 1980’s look if I could at least make it work. Guess what – it wouldn’t run on any of my machines, in fact, wouldn’t install on the portable.

Then the customer support run-around started, during which I discovered (was informed!) that Paqlm only supported their software on single-processor machines (thus very little sold over the last couple of years) and on plain-vanilla XP (no media edition, no tablet!) Ironically, the one machine I own that met those specifications was the one on which it wouldn’t install, but the tech rep wiggled out of that one by pointing out that laptops were not supported either!

Back to customer service, to get a return authorization for the 2nd Treo, at which point I got into an argument about he accessories (case, car charger, etc.) I had purchased with the 1st Treo. they didn’t want totake them back, because these were now beyond the 30 day return period. After several hours and more phone calls, they agreed to authorize their return as well. It took aver a month, and several more phone calls to actually have the return labels e-mailed to me.

Not to waste more energy and space, it took four more months, and endless phone calls to get the actual refunds processed, and in the end I was still out a few dollars because they couldn’t do the math right. In that time I was lied to several times, byt being told that action would happen within 24 hours, and so forth.

I would not recommend a Palm under any conditions, because their customer service frankly stinks.

Oh, and when I returned the 2nd Treo I went and got a Blackberry Curve, and all has been well!

So, I have have been a long-time Palm user. I think my first was a Palm III. I loved it for what it was then, I love it for what it is now. Until the iPhone came along, I abhorred any other user interface available put the Palm. Is it just me, is the WinMobile interface virtually useless without a stylus or 4-way button? With the Treo, nearly EVERY thing I do is with a finger on the screen. I LOVE it!

Alas, the iPhone 3G’s intuitive interface, 16GB of storage and faster INet connections have pulled me away from the Treo.

Is the Palm line dead. Absolutely. But I’ll be shedding many tears at its funeral unless someone either eclipses Windows Mobile or Microsoft revamps to work better on the smaller, handheld devices.

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