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		<title>By: vivanv</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivanv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 18:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vista dhcp problem is a disaster to me.
I tried to modify the registry as kb928233 told to, but everytime I beboot my computer, the first 10 seconds seemed all right but soon it will lost the connection and appeared local only,unidentified network.
maybe it&#039;s time to downgrade to winxp...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vista dhcp problem is a disaster to me.<br />
I tried to modify the registry as kb928233 told to, but everytime I beboot my computer, the first 10 seconds seemed all right but soon it will lost the connection and appeared local only,unidentified network.<br />
maybe it&#8217;s time to downgrade to winxp&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jah Hass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jah Hass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flag didn&#039;t fix it for me.  Actually the problem is NOT on my &quot;gaming&quot; vista ultimate 64 desktop at home, nor the test laptop.  Both of those are NOT on my corporate domain.  As soon as i add ANY, and i mean any, Computer to the corporate domain.  Instant problems with DHCP.  i have a whole rant on tech net.  The solution (for the time being - more on this in a moment) was a solution that i found that basically RESET the security of i believe network service and local service, etc...  I have it if anyone wants it.  BUT... an automatic update BROKE EVERYTHING AGAIN!!!  WTF.  this was the infamous update (that was UNINSTALLABLE) that was breaking logitech and wireless mice everywhere as well as i think soundcards.  Sure system restore.  turned off and disabled auto updates, and guess what.  IT AUTO UPDATED AGAIN!?!!?  WTF?!?!?  so anyway.  i blocked that update from ever happening again, but after that last update, even after the system restore...  even doing the security command that fixes the registry security settings... I STILL CANT GET DHCP ADDRESSES from my vista hard drive that i now NEVER use in my laptop.  sigh.  i run a very basic basic windows 2003 domain and active directory setup.  it has to be something, but we&#039;ve already decided we&#039;ll NEVER go vista, and if any of our 250 PCs start dying, we&#039;ll just repair them.  Though dell is with us until 2010.  YAY dell!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flag didn&#8217;t fix it for me.  Actually the problem is NOT on my &#8220;gaming&#8221; vista ultimate 64 desktop at home, nor the test laptop.  Both of those are NOT on my corporate domain.  As soon as i add ANY, and i mean any, Computer to the corporate domain.  Instant problems with DHCP.  i have a whole rant on tech net.  The solution (for the time being &#8211; more on this in a moment) was a solution that i found that basically RESET the security of i believe network service and local service, etc&#8230;  I have it if anyone wants it.  BUT&#8230; an automatic update BROKE EVERYTHING AGAIN!!!  WTF.  this was the infamous update (that was UNINSTALLABLE) that was breaking logitech and wireless mice everywhere as well as i think soundcards.  Sure system restore.  turned off and disabled auto updates, and guess what.  IT AUTO UPDATED AGAIN!?!!?  WTF?!?!?  so anyway.  i blocked that update from ever happening again, but after that last update, even after the system restore&#8230;  even doing the security command that fixes the registry security settings&#8230; I STILL CANT GET DHCP ADDRESSES from my vista hard drive that i now NEVER use in my laptop.  sigh.  i run a very basic basic windows 2003 domain and active directory setup.  it has to be something, but we&#8217;ve already decided we&#8217;ll NEVER go vista, and if any of our 250 PCs start dying, we&#8217;ll just repair them.  Though dell is with us until 2010.  YAY dell!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Norris</title>
		<link>http://www.lockergnome.com/it/2008/06/06/vista-dhcp-bug-is-horrible/#comment-33622</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this setting is not a standard DHCP setting. Every router in the world by default blocks broadcasts, that&#039;s the point of a router.  However for DCHP to work routers use a HELPER (thought that support it) to take the DHCP broadcast from a PC or other device and forward it via unicast to the DHCP server,  the resulting DHCP OFFER is sent to the router which forwards it to the client.

lame.... vista</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this setting is not a standard DHCP setting. Every router in the world by default blocks broadcasts, that&#8217;s the point of a router.  However for DCHP to work routers use a HELPER (thought that support it) to take the DHCP broadcast from a PC or other device and forward it via unicast to the DHCP server,  the resulting DHCP OFFER is sent to the router which forwards it to the client.</p>
<p>lame&#8230;. vista</p>
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		<title>By: Chrystoph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrystoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come along, folks. The answer to this is obvious. They are trying to bind you to the Microsoft solution.

&quot;If you were using OUR servers, you wouldn&#039;t have this problem....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come along, folks. The answer to this is obvious. They are trying to bind you to the Microsoft solution.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you were using OUR servers, you wouldn&#8217;t have this problem&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joby Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joby Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vista sucks To be honest, It&#039;s good if you put it against Linux but verses Leopard. Vista chokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vista sucks To be honest, It&#8217;s good if you put it against Linux but verses Leopard. Vista chokes.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Paddock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Paddock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vista is setting the flag correctly, though.

It is also designed to auto-detect whether the router supports the flag or not, and adjust to support it.

Details here:

http://blogs.technet.com/teamdhcp/archive/2006/11/08/use-of-broadcast-b-flag-in-dhcp.aspx

Did changing that key actually help your friend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vista is setting the flag correctly, though.</p>
<p>It is also designed to auto-detect whether the router supports the flag or not, and adjust to support it.</p>
<p>Details here:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.technet.com/teamdhcp/archive/2006/11/08/use-of-broadcast-b-flag-in-dhcp.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.technet.com/teamdhcp/archive/2006/11/08/use-of-broadcast-b-flag-in-dhcp.aspx</a></p>
<p>Did changing that key actually help your friend?</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is: does this flag conform to the standard or not?
My own experience showed that cheap routers very often don&#039;t behave according to standards and before blaming Microsoft more investigation is needed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is: does this flag conform to the standard or not?<br />
My own experience showed that cheap routers very often don&#8217;t behave according to standards and before blaming Microsoft more investigation is needed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, it is horrible.  Made even more horrible byt he fact that the flag can&#039;t be changed through the Network Properties, but has to be done through the registry.
I first noticed this &quot;feature&quot; when Vista came out.  It pretty much makes Vista unable to work with many DHCP relay, so for any business network that has multiple broadcast domains (VLANs) with less DHCP servers than broadcast domains (which is nearly any medium to large business), they may have to re-enable the broadcast flag.
I&#039;m suprised your Linux DHCP server doesn&#039;t include support for the broadcast flag though, it must be in the config somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, it is horrible.  Made even more horrible byt he fact that the flag can&#8217;t be changed through the Network Properties, but has to be done through the registry.<br />
I first noticed this &#8220;feature&#8221; when Vista came out.  It pretty much makes Vista unable to work with many DHCP relay, so for any business network that has multiple broadcast domains (VLANs) with less DHCP servers than broadcast domains (which is nearly any medium to large business), they may have to re-enable the broadcast flag.<br />
I&#8217;m suprised your Linux DHCP server doesn&#8217;t include support for the broadcast flag though, it must be in the config somewhere.</p>
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