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If health care reform fails

The short answer is that we stick with the system that we have, the long answer is that the current system stays in place and we keep spending more and more money on care that is getting poorer and  poorer, likely costing the individual more than they would have ever spent on a reformed plan.  There are those that like to say that it is unfair to make the hard working taxpayer foot the bill for the unemployed or those that choose to stay on welfare, but the poor don’t pay for health care.

The poor go to clinics or go to the emergency room when something goes wrong, they don’t pay for those things because they can’t.  Hospitals usually have a fund that pays for those types of visits and the people that pay for those funds are the middle class who have health insurance or at least make enough money to be able to pay for their medical bills - even if it does bankrupt them in the process.

There is an argument that says the system we have now might not be the greatest, but a new system has a chance of being worse AND might cost money at the same time.  Having been in the middle class and having made enough money to have to pay taxes, rather than get a full refund, I can say that I can see no way that it could cost me any more money to try a new way.  My wife and I both work and the health insurance to cover our son would have been nearly 600 dollars a month where my wife worked and over 450 dollars where I worked, and that doesn’t include the cost of insuring anyone else.  We actually make too much money to be covered by government assistance but not enough to be able to afford good healthcare and still pay the rest of our bills and eat.

An option in our case would be to get third party insurance for our son, which we tried to do but were rejected.  The rejection was because they claimed he had cancer in his eye, he didn’t have cancer, he had a blocked tear duct but when we faxed in a letter from his physician explaining that they claimed to have lost the fax.  We sent it twice.  One might say that it was a simple misunderstanding, others might say that they did not want to insure my son because, as an infant, he was sure to use need to see a doctor and some point and would therefore cost money.

Health insurance companies are run as profit making enterprises and the more people they have on the rolls that might use their health care, the lower their profits will be.  I can’t really come up with a legitimate reason to defend the current system, the only way I could defend it is if they were paying me.  They are not paying me.  If the push to reform health care fails I can’t see where we go from here, It makes more sense for me to take a lower paying job or to go on welfare than it does to continue working and be in the middle class simply because I will have access to cheaper healthcare for myself and my son.  I’d also have more money at the end of the month, we shouldn’t have a system that works that way.

It is painfully obvious that it is solely up to the Democratic party to push through health care reform, and if they fail to do it with a 60 vote majority in the Senate and a large majority in the House, I don’t see a good reason to re-elect them in 2010 if they couldn’t get the job done.  That isn’t to say that the Republican party will suddenly ascend to power again, because they are the ones most actively defending this mess of a system.

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It tends to make a lot of good people despondent and at the least susceptible, when they read, watch and listen to the maverick storm of media ads, thumping down President Obama’s health care initiative? Much of the rambling artifacts are the Simon and Lois ads of the Clinton administration, heavily armed against any revisions in this issue that wealthy insurance companies and subsidiaries won’t tolerate.

They insulted the senior citizens with their propaganda and bald faced lies about the European government run health care system. Being originally an Englishman myself, I guarantee in the 1960’s, we had a unique form of medical services, inclusive of eye and teeth. Even government run medical care in Australia was exceptional. It did plummet down somewhat, when business starting recruiting foreign labor from the commonwealth and Northern Europe. Many were out for a free financial ride and got it, along with their large families that British citizens have to support with their limited pounds sterling.

Just as the anti-governmental health care extremists have been pounding the airwaves, the open border, globalist is now subjecting the American people to a torrent of inflaming immigration polls. But like all polls they can be intentional manipulated, in exactly how the questions are worded? Sure they can keep their co-pays, deductibles and pre-existing small-print clauses, squeezing every penny from a hurting economy, but tell the–BLOODY TRUTH!

It’s a sad fact that you cannot trust the Liberal slant regarding this searing problem, although not all Liberals are favorable to another AMNESTY? The Democratic leadership, hiding liberal views behind closed drapes tried to annihilate any good, workable illegal immigration enforcement laws. In an earlier session of the Senate an error was made with E-Verify, so it’s was fortunate to survive Sen. Reid and Pelosi’s notion? Anything that has an impact on removing illegal immigrants is intercepted by business oriented free traders.

GOOGLE—illegal immigration–to find out their sinister intention, to just throw open the gates, ports and airline entrances to cheap labor, that also become the downfall of the European Union. the polling I have seen has been calculatedly –ENGINEERED–to get results, that they can brandish around, declaring the majority of Americans believe in a path to citizenship and open borders? Already the Democrats are ready to flag the Save Act, 287(g) local police enforcement to weaken these laws.

Currently both issues have heavy fallout, and you the voter should let your Senator or Representative know your opinion on either matter at 202-224-3121—BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE. Both have massive consequences in costs and quality of life in your future and generations to come.WE MUST SAY NO AMNESTY! SEAL OUR BORDERS AND NO MORE FREEBIES TO ILLEGAL ALIENS. THEY ARE THE CRIMINALS, NOT AMERICANS WHO SACRIFICE TAXES? GOOGLE–NUMBERSUSA for details our government and the media have a nefarious talent, for keeping facts under wraps?

Wow, lots of partisanship. Unneeded, imo.

It’s not a matter of IF it fails, but when. Healthcare as it stands is headed at high speed toward a brick wall. It’s terminal.

The idea that the gov’t is going to `fix’ healthcare is only alive in the minds of the politicians and the memory-impaired, who can’t remember every other time the gov’t fixed something.

Sorry, I don’t have many answers, other than it has to be fixed from multiple perspectives.

You gain valuable insight into legislation by observing who its foes are. Was it insurance companies who just hired 350 high-powered lobbyists to lobby against national healthcare?
Yup. That’s gotta tell you something….

More than half of Medicare (and perhaps even other health care) goes into the last 6 months of life (usually among the elderly).
The elderly citizenry is shafting the 0 to 18 year-olds. Their health care should be free.

The whole “reduction of pharmaceutical research” is largely humbug. Most “new” drugs are very expensive ($30,000 to $60,000 per year for cancer medications). On average these drugs increase life-expectancy by 4 months! Of every pharma dollar, 11cents goes to research, a whopping 47cents goes to marketing and ads!

Stop this madness and the threats of “regulation”. Of course we need to regulate ourselves.

BAN television advertising for fuzzy new diseases like “fibromyalgia” and “restless leg syndrome” and “chronic dry eye”. Stop ALL prescription drug advertising!

To the people who whine about Govt. run health care, half our country is already governed by Govt. run health care! Medicare, Medicaid, VA, State and Federal Govt. employees…

http://beaconintegration.com/service.htm

people don’t understand the insurance DOESN’T provide much until they get sick. since majority of a given population isn’t sick (i suppose we could have a strain of über swine flue someday?), the majority will never feel the need to have the government to run the heath-care business… why is that “saving” us from another 911, which killed 2000 people, is used as the “reasoning” for having the government to bomb but the same reasoning doesn’t apply to those who die quietly uninsured.

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