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The Republican Base Looking For Confrontation with White House Already?

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Traditionally, a new President gets a grace period where his appointments are voted on and passed, the major legislation that he ran on is allowed to come up for a vote and generally is supported by both parties, and everything stays pretty civil.  This time however, the Republican base is already looking to butt heads with the new, and popular, administrations.  Just yesterday people such as Rush Limbaugh were saying how they were hoping that Barack Obama would fail.  A check of the Free Republic website, where many hard core right wing conservatives like to discuss politics and political strategy, shows that the Republican base is wanting the party to fight Obama and the Democrats at every turn, essentially gridlocking the government and making the change that Obama ran on virtually impossible without strong-arming the Republicans into submission.  Conservative talk show hosts are looking for much the same thing, fighting the shift in power, despite the fact that the American people clearly voted for the changes that the  new administration is looking to put into effect.  With the Republican party now largely a regional party confined to the deep south and parts of the midwest, it makes little sense to try and keep the American public from getting the things that they voted for.  With that being said, it would be an excellent strategy to see them go for if you were on the Democratic side of things, because you would have a very unpopular Republican party trying to fight a very popular President - that spells more election defeats in the next round of elections.  Perhaps the biggest danger the Republicans face, and maybe the reason they are so determined to slow down the Obama administration, is because if the Democrats are able to implement their legislative agenda and things get better, the Republicans have absolutely nothing to run on considering the mess that was left over from when they were in charge.  They may have no other recourse than to fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo simply because it is the only way they would be able to justify their existence as a political party.  If things get better under a Democratic Congress and President Obama, it could mean the end of the conservative movement in America.

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Amazing job taking Limbaugh’s quote and twisting it.

For those of us that are less concerned with popularity and more concerned with America’s future… then we kinda decided to not “smoke in the bathroom” with the other cool kids in school, and know that Obama’s not the new Messiah.

We know very little about his past, and what we do know about him doesn’t paint a very pretty picture. The few details he’s given out about himself, or owned up to, aren’t even enough to pass a background check for the Border Patrol… and yet, he gets elected President. The Democratic party just wanted to be fancy and run an actual person as their candidate… They could have literally put a house plant on the ticket, and we’d have President Fern right now. Change you can depend on… if you water it at least once a week.

What Rush was saying, and what many level headed people agree with, is that America really can’t handle all of his agenda’s right now. He wants the government to have their finger in pretty much every pie out there. Does anyone need to be reminded of what happened to the housing market when the government decided to help people out? … Yeah, and now we’re getting a Treasury Secretary that can’t even remember to pay his own taxes?! Off to a GREAT start so far…

Would McCain have been any better? No… he’s a scum-bag… Hopefully the next few years will wake America up and get people to realize that the Bi-Partisan system we’re running with is slowly, but surely, destroying us.

As far as the end of the conservative movement in America… I don’t think we’ll have to worry about that. I mean, we have California… the model of what the Liberals want for America. They have so many nut-job plans that have been implemented they’ve bankrupted themselves! We’ll always have a reminder of what happens when a party goes unchecked.

Obama and his party and crew have a really amazing opportunity right now… do I hope they fail? God no… I hope they can actually turn our country around. There are too many people working too hard right now and getting nowhere. We don’t need hand outs, we don’t need the government to run everything for us, we need to government to do what it’s supposed to do, and that’s give us the chance to make things better for ourselves. Something the Bush administration neglected and something I REALLY hope the Obama administration will pay attention to.

I love America, I served in the military, and I’ll always want America to stay the way she was meant to be…. not a glorified soup kitchen.

The Republicans best work with the Democrats to get things ironed out to inprove our economy before they go back into they business as usual mode.Put all that in fighting on hold.And run the Country and do what the tax payers pay them for.That’s run the Country.

Clearly you’re looking at things from a liberal point of view. Many same or similar arguments could be made of the Democratic base and their refusal to accept Bush policies. However, if the new administration does succeed in implementing it’s proposed policies, is this necessarilly a good thing. Many think not (myself included). Bigger Government, increased taxes, nationalized healthcare, nationalized industry, spread the wealth, all spell socialism, and I don’t think any of us Democrat, Republican, liberal or conservative, want that.

i have to agree with Dan on this one. You are saying that the Republicans won’t give him a chance, while the Democrats did not give Bush a chance. He said, “Bigger Government, increased taxes, nationalized healthcare, nationalized industry, spread the wealth, all spell socialism,” which I definitely agree is not good. Not only that, but Barack Obama plans to not follow the Constitution. If Obama did the opposite of what Dan said, then maybe he could be a good president. Our country’s economy is AWFUL, and if Obama makes it worse, then his “change” is a failure, and will mostly ruin the country.

Come, come now. I don’t think it’s right to block everything but lets remember the deep rooted hate Democrats had for Bush. They barely ever cut that guy a break. Now everybody wants to give to President Obama what they wouldn’t give to Mr Bush, some simple respect. I think America is in for a big surprise the next few years. Remember the grass isn’t always greener.

Holy run on sentences. That was a tough read. Anyway, I think you need to research the power structure in the gov right now. The Republicans couldnt cut any of Hussein’s policys if the wanted to. Enjoy your new leader.

Urban Underbrink

January 22nd, 2009
at 4:59am

Why is anyone crying foul now? The Demoncrats fought against everything the Republicans wanted. The only times they would go along with anything is when they got some major conce$$ions. The present Administration is a Fraud and I doubt it will last full term. I doubt the United States will last another 10 years. I have never seen such hatred as the Left has shown! They are truly Demonic “Demoncrats”

Considering the Bush Administration’s fine effort at shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as well as destroying the economy by getting rid of all the economic police, Republicans should just end their miserable existence as a party. Instead, they continue their obstructionist ways. Bye Bye GOP …. RIP

Rush and his ilk, left or right, are Media Whores. They care more about their egos, more about their ratings or book deals than this country. They provide no input into the process except rants of venom and hate. They are not part of the dialogue they are bordering on hate crime. Read David Broder is you want a thoughtful conservative view.

This article is misleadingly titled - as borne out by the comments - for it’s not the Republican Base but rather the neo-conservative Republican fringe that is looking, hoping for conflict.

The Republican Base is finally re-appearing and is quite pleased to see policies that perhaps would have been introduced by McCain actually appearing under this administration.

Proof? Watch the votes.

Does anybody see anything wrong with dicussing political views on a tech board???? Shame on Chris for allowing people’s political views to permeate the tech boards! Thumbs down Lockergnome.

What a crock of crap, mindless partisan crap. I listen to talk radio, I’m a war veteran, and I am conservative. I am not a Republican or Democrat, I am an AMERICAN.

I haven’t heard any of the talk radio hosts ay they want President Obama to fail. In fact, Glenn Beck is calling for everyone to come together IN SUPPORT of our COUNTRY, not politics, parties, or such nonsense. Failure is not an option. I want the President to go down in history as one of the best we had, I want him to put an end to the government waste and mindless drivel that you spewed in your article. How can a true American wish for anything less?

Get over the mindless politics and party lines, we’re AMERICANS first, political party members second (or last). Unless you think your party is better than the country, if this is the case, you are most certainly part of the problem, not part of the solution.

It’s articles like this that spark a fire that needs to burn out. There is nothing to be gained by casting blame, pointing fingers, or name calling. Spend a few minutes watching Glenn Beck and you’ll see he’s not “out of touch” like you imply Conservatives are, he is right on the mark.

Amen, Jeff.

If we remember we’re Americans first, a lot of the bickering would die down. I’m a retired veteran and conservative. I have issues with both parties. But, I love my country, warts and all.

Where else in the world can you say the things being posted here without fear of reprisal? That is what I stood for as a young man.

I would also suggest that the name calling is counter-productive. When you call someone a name, e.g. lib, nazi, fascist, etc., it simply causes emotional responses on the other side. Escalations ensue and no one thinks any more.

We do not have a perfect form of government, but we have the best that exists today.

Shame on you, Chris, for allowing such drivel.

Russ, get serious. Shreading the Constitution? Really? Tell us how. Then tell us why the Democratic congress approved the very things those on the left complained about, staying in Iraq (they told you they would get us out if we elected them, remember?), the Patriot Act (the Dems said it was a terrible thing, before they extended it!)

Don’t give thanks to George W. Bush for keeping our country safe. Don’t give him credit for freeing two nations, a strong economy, a great stock market, and 6 million new jobs. Don’t thank him for trying 17 times to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, only to be opposed each and every time by the Democrats. In case you missed it, the economy was doing fine until the Dems took over congress in 2006 (for those who don’t remember, the Dems promised us a BETTER economy). Don’t believe me? Check for yourself.

And please, no need to lie. Rush did not say what you claim. What a distortion. We have elected an inexperienced, Socialist, showman who wishes to spend this nation into a debt we can never recover from.

Please read this quote, and take it to heart:

AUTHOR: Alexander Fraser Tytler (1747–1813)

QUOTATION: A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

I tend to agree with Scucci and Dan, but even more with FedUp. I orginally subscribed to Lockergnome to learn about and keep up with tech issues. There are plenty of other sources for discussion of politics. To Chris, by letting yourself and others start injecting their political views in this forum, you will end up automatically alienating half of your base. You’re not going to convert them, but loose them by going off topic, including me. I am a CPA with clients that run to both ends of the political spectrum and one thing I’ve learned is that when I am providing my professional services, it’s not a time to discuss hot button issues such as politics or religion. There are better and more appropriate times for that. It’s not that I’m afraid of letting my views be known, almost all my clients are well aware that I am a conservative and dislike most liberal views, but they expect me to provide my services in return for payment without editorializing on the hot button issues.

I got this link by a LockerGnome email . I clicked my mouse to read the post. Didn’t you? You then on your own decided to read the post. You were not forced to so get over it. You chose to read it so shut up already.

If you don’t want to read it then don’t.

The Right wing Republicans had it in for Clinton when he was elected and turned over every rock, nook and cranny to find something —- anything —– they could use to take him down. I still feel that the only person who had a real handle on the situation was Ron Paul but the news media wouldn’t listen to him, until after the election. The economic mess, not only this country but the world is in began decades ago. It wasn’t something that just started with Fanny and Freddie. That was just the last straw. It amazes me how disgruntled politicians refuse to see anything any way but their own. By the way, Lumbaugh speaks only for himself and no one can or should interpret what he says.

As part of the ‘Republican Base’, I personally am not looking for conflict. I love the fact that Obama is such a good uplifting communicator. However, I thoroughly disagree with many of his policies and MUCH of his agenda. Remember that history tends to repeat itself. I am turned off by conservative radio personalities bashing him however I do agree with them attacking socialistic ideas. *Bigger government is not a good idea. We, the people, have to make things work from the private sector. Expensive programs that are likely to increase significantly in costs in the long term have led to big government. In states where welfare pays the most, unemployment is at its highest traditionally. This is a system now where a specific social group believes that you start by having teenage girls have a baby so you can “earn” money. This will never stop unless the welfare system is overhauled. Doing that with a broad stroke could actually hurt people it was intended to help. Government is supposed to be run on the taxes we pay. It isn’t. Our ‘leaders’ recommend and support programs that we simply cannot afford.

*I’ve gotten to where I switch stations now.

Chris used to be a bright savvy intelligent source & fellow for tech news, help, ideas & computer issues that helped us so many years ago. Now he has become mostly an idealog spewing the “line” with little left for us who were drawn to him in the begnning. I’m surprised he hasn’t now purposed the idea of a bailout for the “do oit ourselves” tech sector & individuals. He was once an entrepreneur, a make it on your on guy. The way he speaks now, individualism has apparently vanished from his vocabulary & mindset. God help us all if he can be so easily snowed as many others have now been. God help Presiident Obama as people have expectations of him no one could ever meet. It seems to many, people & businesses, in this nation were ready & wiilling to drink the koolaide of salvation at the trough & teet of government “public’ money of which they provide little. UK residents used to move here to avoid the obscene confiscation of profit & weath for the many from the few. I fear that will again happen but not from there but here to wherever wealth & profit are not profane words & ideas. I hope “somebody/s” wake up before it’s to late to stop. Oh? And sadly I have learned little new, tech wise, in the past year but only political diatribes which is your right in the USA. Just stop calling it tech tips & education when it has morphed & failed, no longer filling the banquet table from which we fed & filled our techie brains… I’m so tired of this inane rantings from both sides. I’m stuck, bed bound 24/7 365 days a year & I can’t even escape the constant drumbeat even from my once techie tech newsletter.

The fact that anyone belives such bigoted propoganda is very suprising. The reason the conservatives did not win was becouse they lost their way. The party was trying to pander to those on the left and got away from the real values of being financaly responsible, self accountable, and having a level of respect for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happieness. To blame the fail economy on the 43 president is like mblameing the Jews for the holocost. It’s all political don’t do it.

Alex stated,

“The Right wing Republicans had it in for Clinton when he was elected and turned over every rock, nook and cranny to find something —- anything —– they could use to take him down.”

And to think all of that time, all they had to do was to “turn over” his desk and find him “not having sex” with all of those White House aides!

Sorry folks, I just couldn’t resist. I actually thought Clinton did a descent job, he just had trouble keeping his pants on.

The sad part about Chris allowing political write-ups on Lockergnome is that they always seem to espouse ultra-left (his?) political views. And as the above article illustrates, many of the authors have illogical, unfair-minded views without basis in fact, much less reality.

To say at this early date that Republicans are giving Obama a hard time after the way they (Dems) trashed “W” (whom I didn’t vote for) in 2000 or in the years after is “The pot calling the kettle black”!

I hope Obama succeeds, but if he does, it will be because he is deliberate, listens to all sides and comes down centrist. Let’s not fall for this cult of personality garbage. Stick with substance. Be mindful of articles such as this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/opinion/23brooks.html

“the Republican base is wanting the party to fight Obama and the Democrats at every turn, essentially gridlocking the government and making the change that Obama ran on virtually impossible without strong-arming the Republicans into submission.”

Isn’t this exactly what the Democratic majority has done for the past 2 years while they where in control of both the house and senate ???
It’s easy to blame the president for not getting things done when the only power he had left was the power of a veto.
A power he really didn’t have to use since the democrats really never approved any bills.
To be fair, this is a new administration and we should all hope that they can clean up our current mess.
I personally don’t see how spending more will cure our economic ills.

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