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Who Provides Technical Support For A Dell Bought At Best Buy?

Back on January 14, 2008 I posted an article which attempted to answer the question of who provides support when a person buys a Dell computer from Best Buy. But according to DB, there is still some confusion as to who does what. In one of his statements he mentions that a Dell support supervisor stated that his purchase from Best Buy, and calling Dell support, would be like a HP customer calling Dell.

DB stated the following in his quest for customer service:

I bought a Dell XPS 420 desktop over the weekend at Best Buy, on a whim. The Dell scan said there were a few problems, I checked the link “tell me” and ended up (immediately) in a chat with dell. I was reprimanded for contacting Dell because– DUH– I had bought the computer from Best Buy. However, I had the printed warranty at my desk and there was absolutely no discussion of Best Buy or Geek Squad. Everything is about Dell support and how long it lasts after purchase.

Eventually the Dell chat support disconnected me and within a few seconds I got a call from Dell support, where a very nice indian lady told me there was nothing she could do for me.

I called back the number and reached somebody stateside and while talking to him I found the page on my Dell account website, based on my service tag, that said I had Dell support for the NEXT 500 DAYS. That’s phone support. Parts support was assigned to Best Buy for a few months, then transferred to Dell.

However, the sympathetic Dell employee told me that his supervisor told him I was the equivalent of an “HP Customer” calling Dell for service.

Well, let me see… I have been buying Dell for years, one of the reasons I picked up this machine was my positive experience with Ma Dell. The Best Buy rep even tried to sell me an addon warranty and I told him I would not need it because I was familiar with Dell’s service and have been very happy with it.

My bad, apparently. I was never even allowed to talk to the supervisor, who continued to insist I was no better than an HP customer asking for Dell support.

I thought Dell was on a mission from Mr. D himself to make service paramount. Where’s the beef?

One would hope that customer support would make some exceptions when contacted by a person who actually owns a Dell system and not an HP computer. I am not sure, but since Dell now sells through Staples, Wal-Mart and other retail outlets, who provides support for these systems? I don’t recall Wal-Mart having a computer service department.

I am also forwarding this to a Dell advocate as well.

Comments welcome.

39 Comments

Hello,

My name is Mike, I’m a Technical Analyst at Dell corporate headquarters in Round Rock, TX. I’m part of an internet outreach team developed to interact with the online community regarding technical questions and issues that customers face with Dell products.

I’m sorry about the way your call was handled. The Best Buy purchases can be a bit confusing when it comes to support. The basic version is this; Dell can help with basic troubleshooting such as determining if a problem is hardware or software related, showing you how to run diagnostics or PC restore, and determining error codes and stop codes. You would need to take the machine back to Best Buy if any service needed to be performed on it. Here is some documentation for you to look over which should hopefully keep any confusion out of any future support needs.

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/best_buy?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/policy/en/policy?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=010

Again, I apologize for the way you treated by the chat agent and the phone rep, but hopefully this should answer any remaining questions you have.

Thank you,

Mike
Dell customer advocate

Why didn’t you buy online from Dell? You must have overpaid going to Best Buy…they are always overpriced.

I NEVER buy from local stores like Best Buy and Circuit City (known by another name too). The customer service is non-existent and prices are too high. Why pay more money for the exact same thing?

Your problem wasn’t Dell–it was going to Best Buy.

That said, Dell and/or Best Buy should detail, exactly, how they expect a customer to request support, terms, etc. rather than just handing them some legalese warranty document.

Funny, the few times I’ve actually bought something at best buy (i.e. cheapo, ten dollar analog phone for testing or something like that) the cashiers always want to sell me service contracts that cost more than the item itself and I have to laugh. However, your purchase of a several hundred dollar (or more) computer results in confusion about support…this is why I can’t stand spending any money in these brick & mortars…their priorities stink!!

Good luck…

Nothing like an end run by the manufacturer, but did you contact the retail outlet and inquire as to their return policy on this item? I don’t see the need to go online to purchase everything IF the same item can be bought locally, as long as pricing is competitive. Comparative shopping is really not that difficult these days.

Nothing wrong with a brick & mortar outlet IF the prices are close enough (don’t forget shipping/handling charges on online purchases either!). IF you can get a better deal online, then of course, go for it. Also, you sometimes luck out on not getting zapped with sales tax. This normally makes a wash out of the s/h charges.

With Dell’s horrendous history of bad customer support, it defies logic why people still do business with them! AND yeah, the customer service rep from India is something you won’t find at GATEWAY. There I go again! LOL

Mike B.
Thanks so much for stopping by and providing the links.

Mike,
I believe that Best Buy should tell the customer who provides what and when.

Don,
I tend to agree. I shop brick & mortar when the price is right. I don’t miss calling India. :-)

Ron,

It’s my pleasure! And to your point, Best Buy should be completely forthcoming with the terms of the support on any computer they sell, let it be a Dell or not. I’m sure the information is somewhere in the documentation they provide with the system, but it should be an upfront conversation during the sale.

In response to the brick and motor stores, I agree with Don. When factoring in the costs associated with shipping and handling, plus having to deal with time in transit, and even having to be home to sign for some deliveries; brick and motor outfits can usually offer a competitive edge with online stores. With that said, I too have shared in the silent chuckle brought about by the bombardment of up-sells, reward cards, special interest rates, etc… associated with a face to face transaction. Although I can find the humor that Mike finds in being pitched a warranty that costs more than the product itself, my initial snicker is in response to the fact that the sales representatives look almost as annoyed that they have to offer it to me as I do in having to turn it down, sometimes two or three times for the pushy ones.

As for Don’s comment about our “horrendous history of bad customer support” I’d have to say, my apologies if you were affected in any negative way by our support, but I’m sure you realize that every company has its horror stories. We’ve been actively trying to improve our support, even implementing a site where we give our customers the opportunity to give their own ideas on what we should offer or how to improve our business (and even offering rewards for the genuinely active ones). It’s already made drastic changes in our support offerings as well as system designs and business model. Feel free to take a look at ideastorm.com and join the conversation if you have something you feel would improve the business.

You’ll also see people like me going out online and actively engaging in conversations with our customers, helping to resolve any problems or questions they might have about our products or support. We respond to questions, problems, and comments on a multitude of platforms such as large forums, blogs (like this one), and even personal blogs from customers who are just posting to write about their day. Please don’t take this a shameful ploy to self promote, I’m just trying to drive the point that no, Dell hasn’t been perfect, in fact far from it, but we’re making the effort to try and better ourselves. I could go on for pages about the improvements and industry firsts we’ve implemented in attempt to give our customers a stronger voice, but as I said… no shameful ploy to self promote ;)

Thank you Ron, for giving me the opportunity to chime in here! And thanks to your readers for the opinions, suggestions, and conversation.

Mike
Dell customer advocate

Mike, in all fairness to you and Dell, I think they make a good product. In fact, my son has a company-issued Dell laptop and has had absolutely no problems with it. He does work for a large commercial software company in Burlington MA (you can guess which one) and of course, they probably have direct contact people to call when a problem arises, which the average home buyer does not.

If Dell truly wants to get back on track and gain customer confidence, then they really need to have more spokespeople like yourself and GO PUBLIC and say what you just did in this blog. Maybe a 1 minute commercial in prime time saying something like: “hey people, we screwed up but we’re trying to fix the problem”. That would go a long way in winning back the loyalty of your customer base.

Don

Hi Don,
“Maybe a 1 minute commercial in prime time saying something like: “hey people, we screwed up but we’re trying to fix the problem”. That would go a long way in winning back the loyalty of your customer base.”

Two-thumbs up!

We consumers are a forgiving bunch, especially if a company admits they made an error in judgment. Dell was always noted for their superior service. It is time to gain that reputation and respect back from the public.

Just my two cents.

I just want to say that I believe Dell really is changing customer service and support for the better. I have a Dell laptop that I’ve had for 14 months now with no major problems so I decided to order a Dell Inspiron 531 desktop from WalMart’s online site and about 2 or 3 weeks after I got it I had a problem with it not recognizing the hard drive. There was confusion to begin with on Dell’s side on who was responsible for tech support on the problem but WalMart and Dell got it worked out inside of 30 minutes or so and then we got on with diagnosing the problem. At first we thought it was the hard drive so they shipped me another one and I got it 3 days after talking with tech support who also called me 2 or 3 times before I received the hard drive to see if it had arrived and I was ready to install it and see if it fixed the problem. It just so happened it arrived after I had spoken wtih the Dell tech support person so my husband, who is an industrial electrician and instrument tech, btw, and I swapped out the drives and I still had the same problem. So, my hubby decided to test out something he’s run into on much bigger systems and lo and behold it turned out to be the SATA 0 cable! The end that plugs into the hard drive was not fitting properly. So, the next day when the Dell rep called me I told them what happened and I sent back the hard drive and they sent me a new SATA 0 cable a few days later which fixed things perfectly. Oh, they also emailed me about all the shipments as well. I kept missing their calls after being sent the SATA 0 cable due to my father-in-law being in the hospital so I emailed them back to apologize and let them know that everthing is working perfectly now and they called back and left a nice message about being able to solve my problem so quickly. One rep even joked to me that we should let my hubby do tech support! :-) Now, my Dell support program shows me that I have tech support and warranty service on my desktop til December of this year before the extended warranty I bought with WalMart kicks in from there. Also, I got a bit impatient with the first tech support person as she had to talk me through the stuff I knew wasn’t going to be the problem and she apologized for it taking so long several times as I was on the phone with her for about 2 hours or so. My hubby and I are pretty good with computers and have even built one for our oldest granddaughter with parts from my old computer when I would upgrade it but now that the prices are so much better from several years ago we decided to just start buying them instead of building them. Anyway, I have been totally satisfied with Dell’s response and I think I’m going to like their new support program you download to your computer as it brings up the firmware updates you need. The only downside to it is that you have to allow Dell to collect your service tag information and on an ongoing basis allow them to see the configuration of your hardware and software environment. They do say they cannot identify your computer with the information they collect but it still makes me uneasy as they are seeing my service tag number which has to be unique to my computer. All in all, though, I have to say I’m very happy with both my Dells and the desktop even has Vista on it and so far, knock on wood, it’s been running just fine after getting the SATA 0 cable problem fixed! Would I recommend Dell? Yes, and as a matter of fact my best friend’s HP and Sony Vaio desktops have gone completely and I’ve been trying to get her to buy a Dell. I think she’ll be greatly impressed if she does.

Thank you all for your stories and suggestions, it’s incredibly motivating to know that we can make an impact like this. Based on your comments, I think you all might take interest in reading the official Dell blog at direct2dell.com sometime. It’s edited by our digital media manager Lionel Menchaca, who is one of the most straight forward, upfront and honest people I’ve ever had the pleasure of working with. He’s one that’s never afraid to go out on a limb and publicly say when we botch something, along with taking suggestions for correcting it and delivering our plan of action in making up for those mistakes. He’s also very active in responding to comments, so if you have something to say or something you’d like to talk about or would like covered, give him a shout… I’m sure he’ll be happy to oblige.

Dell has not only asked, but insisted that we, the digital media teams and online outreach team, drive customer advocacy hard here at Dell. That means giving unprecedented strength to the voice of our customers by delivering it (raw and unedited) straight to the people that can make changes on a global scale. Our success in getting things changed has been over the top; and it’s due to the comments of customers like you, and blogs like this. After all it’s you, our customers, that make our business. That message has been received loud and clear.

Again, I thank you for taking your time to comment and share, and Valorie, I’m glad to hear that you were able to get everything fixed. I know, first hand, how frustrating some of those support calls can be, and I appreciate you hanging in there with us. Don and Ron, I’ll pass on your idea about the commercial, it’s a good one, and I know our marketing teams are always looking for feedback like this.

Mike
Dell customer advocate

Hello,

I’m the guy who posted the original comment about my frustrating experience with the Dell computer from Best Buy. Thank you Ron for citing my original comment, and thank you Mike for the explanation.

First off, about the price– at $899, this machine was quite competitive with Dell’s online offerings. I haven’t compared every detail with the online product but the stripped down version on the Dell website goes for $999 and has the same amount of memory, the same CPU, and the same amount of hard drive space. Even if there’s something missing from the store model, like fewer USB hubs, I’m okay with that, part of the fun with this machine for me is its expandability.

Mike, you say “Dell can help with basic troubleshooting such as determining if a problem is hardware or software related, showing you how to run diagnostics or PC restore, and determining error codes and stop codes.” That’s exactly the kind of assistance I was trying to get. Instead, I was put through the spin cycle and hung out to dry.

I tried dealing with this through email and– you guessed it– I was told to contact Best Buy. I wrote back and never got a response (I could tell the email support person had not read the original message, he just fired off a boilerplate response that arrived 4 days after I sent the question to Dell). I also tried posting something about this on the Dell blog Direct2Dell as a response to an entry about the service policy for machines purchased at Best Buy. Interestingly, there are two posts, the first one says Dell will provide customer service for their machines, with a correction and apology by the blog author saying he was incorrect and that he would post later with the actual policy. The second post, the one I tried to comment on, basically says the same thing Mike says.

Mike, how do you reconcile the information on your website with the printed warranty that was in the box? I would think that the printed warranty would govern. Ironically it starts out with “PLEASE READ THIS DOCUMENT CAREFULLY! IT CONTAINS THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE THAT GOVERN YOUR PURCHASE, UNLESS YOU HAVE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT WITH DELL. THIS DOCUMENT CONTAINS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR RIGHTS AND OBLIGATIONS, AS WELL AS LIMITATIONS AND EXCLUSIONS THAT MAY APPLY TO YOU.”

Have you read this document, Mike? :) Seriously, you should read it, I want to know where it says Dell is not responsible for the manufacturers warranty. For your reference, Mike, please refer to the Dell publication dated April 2007, Rev A02, with a P/N of YK181.

Even if Dell is not bound by this printed warranty, is Dell not responsible for the warranty represented on the Dell support site when I enter my Service Tag? To wit:

Next Business Day Parts Delivery: BBF 1/28/2008-4/28/2009 (409 days)
Next Business Day Parts Delivery DELL: 4/29/2009-7/27/2009 (89 days)
Technical Support – Phone Assistance DELL: 1/28/2008-4/28/2009 (409 days)
Technical Support – Phone Assistance DELL: 4/29/2009-7/27/2009 (89 days)

As you can see, the warranty for my machine is clearly spelled out, down to the day (as of a few days ago) and the type of support. Best Buy is responsible for parts, but doesn’t this really mean that Best Buy is responsible for ordering the parts from Dell, who presumably will provide them to Best Buy at no cost? That’s how it worked for the last computer (a Sony) that I bought from Best Buy. I brought it to the Good Guys counter and they dealt with Sony.

If I’m lucky, a covered part will fail in the 89-day honeymoon I have with Dell AFTER April 29, 2009, when the standard Dell contract directly with me kicks in.

Right now, I am hopeful there will be no hardware issues. However, in the next 500 days or so, I am likely to have a technical/ diagnostic type question, even if this is only because the Dell-provided computer scan is telling me there’s an issue. Mike, can you tell me who I can contact at Dell in the event that I need technical assistance for my XPS 420? I have tried every avenue I could think of short of showing up on your doorstep– chat support, phone support, email support, even posting on a blog about this issue. (As described below, I also stopped by the retail outlet where I bought the machine.) At the end of my rope, I was hoping that maybe I would find something about this in the user-run forum on the Dell site– no luck there either.

Mike, for that contact info, please don’t tell me to use the customer support contact info on your website. That’s how I reached all these dead ends to begin with. If you need my email and would like to contact me directly, I give permission for Ron to send it to you (you do have it, right Ron?).

Regards,

DB

(The following is the message I tried to post on the direct2dell blog, with a few more juicy details regarding the situation. It was probably too specific, but I was hoping the blog author would have pity on me and send me an email).

Loyal and very happy Dell customer here. In particular, I have been extremely impressed with the various customer service improvements Dell has made over the last two years or so (a HUGE improvement over the experience I had with my first Dell back in 1999). I love the Dell Support Center widget, it makes diagnostics a snap. My only other PC experience is with Sony, a company with no customer service focus, and HP, which seems about on par with Dell.

I’ve had an XPS M1710 for a couple of years– incredible machine. A couple of weeks ago I was at Best Buy casually looking at desktops (my Sony was on its last legs) and I immediately gravitated to an XPS 420. I found a store with one in stock (this particular item is especially in demand at Best Buy, it seems) and when the Good Guys salesperson asked me if I wanted to purchase their extended warranty I told him “no thanks, I am very happy with Dell’s standard warranty” and that was that.

After I got the baby up and running I ran the standard Automated Scan and it identified a couple of problems (nothing major as the machine runs like a dream). There was a button on the right that said “tell me more”. I clicked on it thinking that I would be directed to a FAQ sheet but instead I was kicked into a chat with a Dell service person. He started helping me but as soon as he realized that the computer was from Best Buy he told me to call Geek Squad and basically dropped the chat.

Instantly, my phone rang. It was an automated call from Dell customer service to check on whether I had any remaining issues because they knew the chat was terminated prematurely. As soon as the lady heard I was a Best Buy customer she also refused to provide support and told me to call Geek Squad.

At this point I decided to do some research. I poured over the printed Limited Warranty in the box. Everything clearly states that Dell is the responsible party. I find nothing about a third party being responsible if the product is purchased from a retail outlet other than Dell.

Then I used the Dell Support Center to find the warranty associated with my service tag, here’s what it says:

Next Business Day Parts Delivery: BBF 1/28/2008-4/28/2009 (409 days)
Next Business Day Parts Delivery DELL: 4/29/2009-7/27/2009 (89 days)
Technical Support – Phone Assistance DELL: 1/28/2008-4/28/2009 (409 days)
Technical Support – Phone Assistance DELL: 4/29/2009-7/27/2009 (89 days)

Armed with this information, I called Dell customer service. The state-side service rep was very sympathetic as I explained how Dell’s own documentation is steering me to Dell, starting with the button that called up the chat. However, after consulting with his supervisor each time I made another point, all he could do is– you guessed it– tell me to call Geek Squad. At one point his supervisor told him that my status was the equivalent of an HP customer calling Dell for help.

So I took the advice and I called Geek Squad. I explained to the lady that I had an error message from a Dell Scan and I am trying to interpret what it means. She promptly told me that if I want to talk to anyone at Geek Squad I would need to shell out 49 bucks. When I protested, she suggested that I stop by the Geek Squad counter at Best Buy.

I did just that and I was told by Best Buy/ Geek Squad staff that EVERYTHING they sell comes with a manufacturers warranty. I asked for some kind of proof and he called up my machine on their retail website and pointed to the “1 year warranty” line saying that this always means manufacturers warranty (and I believe him, since it says the same thing for all their devices, including stuff that Geek Squad wouldn’t know how to fix).

Now I see the policy you refer to in this blog post, but I have to say it’s a bit vague. It says that you are supposed to take your computer to Geek Squad in order to get it fixed, but it doesn’t say whether the actual service is provided by Dell. My Sony laptop was bought at Best Buy and when the hard drive died I took it to Geek Squad and they sent it to Sony for me.

If you look at the above citation from my Service Tag warranty it just says that Best Buy is responsible for “Next Business Day Parts Delivery,” whereas Dell is responsible for phone support (and I assume this would include chat support too).

Right now I am not having any problems with the machine. In the event something goes wrong, I will insist on Dell support because the warranty that came with my machine says I am entitled to Dell support. Is there a way to get clarification from someone at Dell about this who is high enough up the ladder to actually look at the documentation I am providing regarding the warranty that Dell is telling me I have with them?

After visiting the store I attempted to deal with this through email support and, once again, I was told to call Best Buy. However, the email support guy didn’t respond to anything I said, he just reflexively told me to go away when he saw the phrase “Best Buy.”

Correction to the above, at one point I said “Good Guys” when I meant Best Buy. Good Guys, may they rest in peace.

Hi DB,
Yes I have your email address. :-)

Thanks for the concise explanation of what has happened to you.
All the best, Ron

thanks ron, but I think the appropriate descriptor is “verbose”…

DB
Let us see if we get a response. :-)

no response but at least we achieved one thing: this is the first item that pops up when you search “best buy dell customer service” on google.

even when I logged out of my google account (ie not tailored to my search history, I think).

as for Live Search, it appears nowhere. the first entry is best buy’s main webpage, the second is the direct2dell blog post I refer to above. it turns out Mike’s boss actually posted my entry, but no response yet:

http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2008/01/14/41166.aspx

Hi DB,
I emailed Michael at Dell as well with the additional comments you have provided. Let me know if he gets back to you or not.

Regards, Ron

DB,

I’m sorry for the dealy in replying. I’ve sent you an email to the address that Ron has forwarded to me. Once I have all of this cleared up I’ll post back here with the results.

… and thanks to Ron for keeping me on my toes!

Mike
Dell customer advocate

This is directed to Mike, the customer service guy from Dell. It’s a little crazy to post this here, but anything is worth a try at this point.

For two days now, Dell service has made one bumbling mistake after another on a service call for my son. They totally got his phone number wrong on Tuesday so never showed up and yesterday the person that finally called him never passed along the ticket to the actual tech. As far as I know he’s still waitng today (I’m afraid to call him).

The mother board on his computer has died and the computer is still under warrenty. He’s in a real bind without his computer since it has several specialized programs specific to his classes–engineering programs that you can’t find on any old computer.

So Mike, if you see this, please feel free to e-mail me at doribeth@hotmail.com

FYI, this never got resolved. As I suspected, I was the first of many to experience this problem. Google “best buy dell warranty problems” and you will find other reports starting to trickle in from customers who have been burned by Dell on this. Despite my repeated requests, I never was able to obtain the warranty that spells out their responsibilities toward servicing Best Buy-purchased units.

Hi DB,
Thanks for the update.

From Mike:
“Why didnt you buy online from Dell? You must have overpaid going to Best Buythey are always overpriced.”
–> Dell notebooks prices at Bestbuy are better then Dell site and it does not take weeks to get the PC.
“Your problem wasnt Dellit was going to Best Buy”
–> I think the problem is Dell it self, Any Computer/electronic company offer fisrt years warranty on hardware, for example if i buy a HP, Emachine at bestbuy or Circuit City or Wal-Mart and i call the manufacture for hardware issues they support that customer, I have never heard of a company not supporting their own product for the first year if it is a hardware malfunction if the unit was not purchase from the manufacture it self.
I think Dell it’s wrong on this issue, Bestbuy just sales the product just like any other product in their stores. If i buy a Xbox in bestbuy and the power supply failed within the manufactures warranty should you call bestbuy or Microsoft???
Mikes answer for dell not supporting their own product sound like a sales pitch.

..and Dell Technical Support has confirmed that they will not support Bestbuy customers that purchase Dell’s PC’s/Notebooks if there is a hardware malfuction in the PC.
What Companies offer fist year hardware warranty if unit was purchase at any electronic store:
ALL of them except Dell.

Same problem – laptop purchased from Best Buy, Dell Support site lists provider of support and parts to be Dell with a line for limited support from BBF. Laptop is useless, random bluescreen crash issues. No support from either Best Buy or Dell. Not nice. Not right.

Thanks for the information. Hopefully this will help someone else. I don’t think buying a Dell from Best Buy is a wise decision.

Same problems as you guys. Getting bounced back and fourth between two giant companies that don’t give a damn about the consumer. My webcam is inoperative and I get “Microphone Board not Detected” error in the bios setup. No help from Dell whatsoever even though I suspect this is a software problem. Best Buy will troubleshoot it for $169.00; this laptop is less than 60 days old. Absurd. Appaling customer service from both sides.

Wow,

And I thought I was the only one in this absurd situation. I bought an Inspiron 1525 from Best Buy in August 2008.

Using Vista’s “easy transfer” (and let me tell you, there is nothing easy about it), I messed up the computer by transferring multiple copies of god only knows what settings. Every time the transfer crashed, I restarted it and it would duplicate files in stead of continuing the transfer. Anyway, a Vista issue.

At some point I decided that I was tired of deleting duplicate copies of everything and that the only way out of this mess was to do a clean reinstall. So I did it. I needed some help as I did not know I needed to download some drivers. No big deal, right? I called Dell.

Dell told me that I did not own the computer, Best Buy did. Since I was not the owner, they would not support me. “But is there anything else we can do for you?”. I told them it was ridiculous since they had just told me that there was nothing they could do for me. I told them I was the rightful owner with a receipt at hand to prove it. To which I was told that I had to use Dell’s web site to transfer ownership to myself. I did just that. After waiting for nearly a month, I received an email denying the transfer.

This is totally ridiculous as essentially, Dell’s computers are sold without any warranty. I am sure this is illegal as well.

Mike B.’s postings on behalf of Dell are polite and articulate, but essentially, if you read between the lines, he is doing the same thing. He complements Dell’s support, but sends people like me back to Best Buy. Which is no help at all. I think Dell should unconditionally stand behind their product! One of the reasons that I bought this laptop was Dell’s supposed reputation for support. Surprise! Also, every retailer, including Best Buy, is just a middleman between the manufacturer and the consumer. Every product has its manufacturer’s warranty. How is Dell exempt from this?

I have since resolved my reinstall issues and I love my laptop, but I am dreading the next time I might have a problem.

I am sure there will be a class-action law suit on this issue. Guess what? I’ll be there if needed to share my experience. Shame on Dell for these lowly tricks and shame for Dell as it will hurt the company in the long run.

P. S. Ron, in the unlikely case that Dell needs my email, you have my permission to provide it to them. Thank you for providing this forum.

Arie R.

Hello Arie R,
I believe most of us feel the same about this situation. It is way unbelievable that Best Buy provides the support and not Dell. So with this knowledge in hand, I just ordered a new laptop from Best Buy. No……. not a Dell……. but a Toshiba. :-)

If Dell drops by I will provide your email to them.

Regards, Ron

Ron,

Thank you for your response. I have had a very good experience with Toshiba. I will probably go back to it next time.

While I am happy with my new Dell, I think this situation is just a paradox. A big company like Dell trying to improve its public image by not supporting its customers?! I don’t get it.

Arie

Hi Arie R.,
Neither do I. It is like buying a Ford and than being told that the Ford dealership doesn’t service the vehicle. :-(

Ron,
This is my tale of Best Buy and Dell:

I bought a Dell Inspiron 530 – 30 days ago today(October 25, 2008). Last night I put in a cd and discovered that my cd/dvd player was not working. I tried the usual stuff but no luck. I decide to call Dell for help for what I assume is a minor problem. The Dell guy answers on the first ring and I tell him my DVD is not working. He says that since I bought the computer from Best Buy, Dell will not help me with it. I let him know how much I appreciate this since I bought it on DELL’s reputation and the manufacturer’s warranty wording on the in store ads.

I then call Best Buy and they let me know (after my telling them only that my dvd quit working) that they can fix it right now “over the phone” for the sum of $79.99! I’m quite surprised that I’m asked for payment for an “over the phone” repair on a 30 day old computer. They politely let me know that I can take it to my local Best Buy store and they will gladly fix it when they get to it and it shouldn’t cost a thing! I let them know (politely) that that was ridiculous.

I then called Dell back and let them know how much I appreciated their attitude about THEIR products and received the same story.

I went to Best Buy and talked to 3 different people who all were suprised to find out that Dell did not service the computers Best Buy sells. Two of them pointed out the in store ads that touted the manufacturer’s warranty on Dell computers!

I then asked if this was true of all the computers Best Buy sells. (That warrenty service was to be exclusively by Best Buy.) They discussed it and went away for about 15 minutes and came back to tell me that they were pretty sure their other manufacturers serviced their own products and again pointed out the “manufacturer’s warranty” wording in their in store ads.

Caveat Emptor!

Hi Chris,
Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
Ron

I am still waiting to see when people organize a class-action law suit on this issue. Somehow this does not get enough publicity. I am sure that Dell would back down from this rediculus stand if it was all over the headlines, but the current economic and political situation is leaving this disaster in the shade.

Arie

Wow!
I never thought I would be in this situation and I took every precaution to avoid it.

Well here’s my story….
I’m in medical school and in the middle of class my laptop (hp) froze and wouldnt turn on again. So I took it to the tech lab where they said the motherboard died and because I was 1 month out of warranty it wouldn’t be covered.
In my search for a new and more reliable laptop I called dell. I was told by one sales rep after another that there was no way a laptop could be shipped out in less than 14 business days because every order takes 2 weeks to be built. Instead I was told by dell that because I was in a rush I could buy it best buy and insure it with dell. I wanted to double check this so I called again and was told by another rep (whos info I have) that it would be no problem and that I should call her back to get the warranty.
Well I ordered an XPS laptop from Best Buy and when it came I called the rep again who told me that she would be more than happy to set up my warranty for 4 years. Then she transfered me to the warranty department where I was told that dell can not offer any warranties for best buy products because of a deal that makes best buy the only provider for warranty services.
I was in utter shock that so many dell reps had flat out made assurances to me that carried no weight at all.
I have dealt with best buy before and would in no way have bought the laptop if it would tether me to them for a warranty.
I was again given assurances that after my warranty expires I could renew my warranty (with dell) and this was from the warranty rep (whos info I also have). However when I asked for this in writing I was told that there was no way for me to get his in writing.

I am trying to get this resolved but have been hung up on time and time again. I don’t think that dell policy and commitment to best buy should be greater to the commitment of their customers

Hello Tomer,
Thanks for sharing this with us. It sounds like the Dell reps don’t know what they are talking about. I hope you get the problem resolved, but I believe you may have Best Buy as your warranty provider.

I got a Dell XPS at Best Buy. My problem there is that BB cannot fix the computer. They already changed the Mother Board, HD and Memory and the computer does not work. The way it is, I’ll never have a product that works, despite paying a good amount of moeny for it.

Well bought a Studio 17 from Best Buy 2 weeks ago. HAve issues (IE7 and FF both just stop loading pages and the only way to get them to go back online is to reboot the whole computer). Emailed Dell “tech support” only to get blown off. Best buy doesnt have signs stating this policy, nor are customers told this. I dont even thing the salespeople know this. Only reasons I didnt get another HP is this laptop was on sale, wanted one with 2 hdd bays, numbric pad on the side and Dells top line warranty reputation (which I found out is a complete lie now).

I wonder if I can take this back and exchange it for a HP.

My turn in the spotlight:

I had an HP that was VISTA-Ready and came with free Vista upgrade (from XP), that I bought in Dec 2007. I did the upgrade and ever since, the HP would totally bomb out. New errors every day. Built in webcam not recognized . . Wifi drivers gone . . But the HP was still had a few months warranty. HP support kept directing me to urls to download and reinstall bios and drivers. Time and time again . . . they told me to re-install bios and drivers. Problems would fix for a few days or weeks, but always come back. Then, the HP past its warranty date, and two months later while on line with HP chat support, the woman told me to Reboot and run a hardware test. I did, but during that test the whole laptop bombed out and never booted again. Nothing. Cant even reformat or get to Bios. HP kindly told me that because it was out of warranty, they could fix it for $349, if I sent them back the laptop and waited a few weeks(or months). Even though the problem started long before the warranty ended. That was my first “wake up call” about how these companies play games.

Rather then spend3490 to fix the HP, and wait weeks to get my laptop, I ran out that day and bought a Dell Inspiron 1526 from Best Buy. The price was right and the specs wer great, and I needed a laptop NOW.
Overall, the Dell has been great. The battery went defunct about 6 months after purchase. It no longer held a charge. Odd thing is that I NEVER run on battery . .EVER.
I contacted Dell chat support and a woman was super nice. She explained to me that I should use Best Buy for support due to their contract, however she wanted to assure me that Dell did not want to inconvenience me and so she sent out a new battery rather then make me go to Best Buy. To my surprise, the new battery was at my door the very next day. AND, it was a 9 cell (rather then the 6 that came with the laptop).

2 Months later, My Dell has met the same fate of my previous HP. One day, it stopped booting. When turning on it lights up and the fan comes to life . . and then poof! nothing. Can’t f8, or get to bios . . . no life on the screen. If I reboot about a million times . . sometimes I get lucky and it will come to life, and boot normal. I tried to restore to previous date. That solved it for about a week but then stopped booting again. When I did finally get it to boot, I backed up all my files and reset the laptop to factory specs . . . fresh install.
It worked, but when I shut it down and rebooted – it would not boot again. Now, wont boot at all.
This tells me it is most likely a hardware issue.

The Dell is about 8 months old now, but should be covered under 1 year warranty. I just bought a $350 Acer mini to hold me over.

Tomorrow, I will walk into Best Buy with my receipt and my Dell, demanding it be fixed, and fixed for free. I am an educated professional who is kind and polite at first, but does not walk away and give up. I have absolutely no reserve in utilizing the Attorney Generals Office and Better Business Bureau to reach out to Best Buy and Dell, if they need to be reminded about customer service and product support/warranties. Hopefully, I will not need to do any of that.

Let’s see how things go.

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