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	<title>Comments on: Top 10 Annoyances in Mozilla Thunderbird</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.lockergnome.com/adamr/2007/10/09/top-10-annoyances-in-mozilla-thunderbird/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thunderbird, as freeware, is a decent application. I have used it for a brief time. Prior to getting Thunderbird, I was using Eudora. I feel really comfortable with Eudora. Thunderbird was a bit confusing and didn't have the "warm - fuzzy" that I have with Eudora. I saw that, I guess last year, that Eudora and Mozilla were teaming up to create an email client. I believe the name was, or is, Phoenix. I haven't been following the progress but, I'm interested to see what the final product is. I have switched back to my copy of Eudora for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thunderbird, as freeware, is a decent application. I have used it for a brief time. Prior to getting Thunderbird, I was using Eudora. I feel really comfortable with Eudora. Thunderbird was a bit confusing and didn&#8217;t have the &#8220;warm - fuzzy&#8221; that I have with Eudora. I saw that, I guess last year, that Eudora and Mozilla were teaming up to create an email client. I believe the name was, or is, Phoenix. I haven&#8217;t been following the progress but, I&#8217;m interested to see what the final product is. I have switched back to my copy of Eudora for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.lockergnome.com/adamr/2007/10/09/top-10-annoyances-in-mozilla-thunderbird/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanley Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lockergnome.com/adamr/2007/10/09/top-10-annoyances-in-mozilla-thunderbird/#comment-12</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the great Newsletter and your insights. foYour's was one of my earliest Newsletters I have used. Since I have been using the Net since Compuserve was the only game in town it should say volumes about where your Newsletter stands in my book. That said on to the reply.
I am surprised at your response to the Thunderbird email client. I have used it since it came out  since IE sucks so very much. Can I get an Amen!
You are right about Outlook but considering Outlook is a package paid for by  you to Microsoft for big bucks  and Thunderbird is free I cannot see how you can compare them as the mail program meets or exceeds Outlook's user interface in most areas. 
Filters are another story all together. Thunderbird does have filters you can use depending on your requirements but as noted not enough. Regardless, as it is designed for all users it is going to fall short for some and exceed in use for others.
As far as spam and malware I use my Google mail.  I have email sent to gmail then have them forward it to my verizon account so it can be filtered and sent back to me. this will  filter out the junk and evil mail sent by spammers and jerks ready to cause trouble just for fun. Once a week or so I go to Gmail and delete the Spam they caught. It usually has hundreds of junk emails. When I go through them I have found only two they have gotten wrong and they were ads from companies I use.
 You might say that this is a mark against Thunderbird but considering the accuracy of Google's email program it is a step any user should take regardless of what client they use. I hate using on line email clients because they are slow and too basic for my taste so I stick with Thunderbird. Together these two programs beat the competition by a country mile. How can you beat that. As far as the other issues you have such as importing I am surprised again because Outlook express and Outlook do the same thing.
Anyway I am going to have to disagree strongly with you observations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great Newsletter and your insights. foYour&#8217;s was one of my earliest Newsletters I have used. Since I have been using the Net since Compuserve was the only game in town it should say volumes about where your Newsletter stands in my book. That said on to the reply.<br />
I am surprised at your response to the Thunderbird email client. I have used it since it came out  since IE sucks so very much. Can I get an Amen!<br />
You are right about Outlook but considering Outlook is a package paid for by  you to Microsoft for big bucks  and Thunderbird is free I cannot see how you can compare them as the mail program meets or exceeds Outlook&#8217;s user interface in most areas.<br />
Filters are another story all together. Thunderbird does have filters you can use depending on your requirements but as noted not enough. Regardless, as it is designed for all users it is going to fall short for some and exceed in use for others.<br />
As far as spam and malware I use my Google mail.  I have email sent to gmail then have them forward it to my verizon account so it can be filtered and sent back to me. this will  filter out the junk and evil mail sent by spammers and jerks ready to cause trouble just for fun. Once a week or so I go to Gmail and delete the Spam they caught. It usually has hundreds of junk emails. When I go through them I have found only two they have gotten wrong and they were ads from companies I use.<br />
 You might say that this is a mark against Thunderbird but considering the accuracy of Google&#8217;s email program it is a step any user should take regardless of what client they use. I hate using on line email clients because they are slow and too basic for my taste so I stick with Thunderbird. Together these two programs beat the competition by a country mile. How can you beat that. As far as the other issues you have such as importing I am surprised again because Outlook express and Outlook do the same thing.<br />
Anyway I am going to have to disagree strongly with you observations</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.lockergnome.com/adamr/2007/10/09/top-10-annoyances-in-mozilla-thunderbird/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lockergnome.com/adamr/2007/10/09/top-10-annoyances-in-mozilla-thunderbird/#comment-11</guid>
		<description>You have some good points. I only get maybe half the spam you do, but Mailwasher takes them off the server(s) before I download with TBird.

My biggest gripe with Thunderbird is when composing new emails. I will often paste one or more screenshots, and then the "Attaching..." window will pop up and never finishs. It just stays in perpetual motion.. The status bar just cycles around and around.

I have a workaround or two, but they're not very reliable.

I know I should save the shots elsewhere and 'insert' them, but if it works sometimes it should work always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have some good points. I only get maybe half the spam you do, but Mailwasher takes them off the server(s) before I download with TBird.</p>
<p>My biggest gripe with Thunderbird is when composing new emails. I will often paste one or more screenshots, and then the &#8220;Attaching&#8230;&#8221; window will pop up and never finishs. It just stays in perpetual motion.. The status bar just cycles around and around.</p>
<p>I have a workaround or two, but they&#8217;re not very reliable.</p>
<p>I know I should save the shots elsewhere and &#8216;insert&#8217; them, but if it works sometimes it should work always.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Sbardella</title>
		<link>http://www.lockergnome.com/adamr/2007/10/09/top-10-annoyances-in-mozilla-thunderbird/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Sbardella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/08/0344231 

I is unfortunately having some support problems now.  Email is so passe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/08/0344231" rel="nofollow">http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/08/0344231</a> </p>
<p>I is unfortunately having some support problems now.  Email is so passe</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Price</title>
		<link>http://www.lockergnome.com/adamr/2007/10/09/top-10-annoyances-in-mozilla-thunderbird/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't run that many filters, but I do find that every now and then, Thunderbird decides to disable the filter, and usually more than one.  Re-enabling them makes them work.  But I can never get my stuff to archive automatically.  I always have to run that filter manually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t run that many filters, but I do find that every now and then, Thunderbird decides to disable the filter, and usually more than one.  Re-enabling them makes them work.  But I can never get my stuff to archive automatically.  I always have to run that filter manually.</p>
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		<title>By: the oracle</title>
		<link>http://www.lockergnome.com/adamr/2007/10/09/top-10-annoyances-in-mozilla-thunderbird/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>the oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here I disagree. I think that Thunderbird is mostly a good product, and should get better if the Eudora people get their hands on it. 

As for the loading of messages and reads during the process - that would require a much different code structure. Not many products thread well internally, Agent is the only one that comes to mind right now.

My gripes with Thunderbird are totally different. The last time I tried it I thought - This will be great to have it take care of RSS feeds, one less program on the machine - such was not the case. The RSS reader part of the program is FUBAR and needs to be fixed quickly or jettisoned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here I disagree. I think that Thunderbird is mostly a good product, and should get better if the Eudora people get their hands on it. </p>
<p>As for the loading of messages and reads during the process - that would require a much different code structure. Not many products thread well internally, Agent is the only one that comes to mind right now.</p>
<p>My gripes with Thunderbird are totally different. The last time I tried it I thought - This will be great to have it take care of RSS feeds, one less program on the machine - such was not the case. The RSS reader part of the program is FUBAR and needs to be fixed quickly or jettisoned.</p>
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