[…] admin wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptWell the music industry is at it again. Now, the music industry is trying to pass a law that will make it illegal for people, who buy cd’s, to rip them to their computer. The music industry believes that people, who are ripping cd’s, … […]

As my friend in a band said, “F*ck the labels, we can do this on our own”

The funny thing is that many CDs have videos and other media that can ONLY be viewed on a computer…what is wrong with these people?

As for ripping MY CDs, and that is what they are MY PROPERTY once I pay for them, if I want to put the music on my computer so that I can listen to it there why do they care.

I see a “minority report” situation going on here…let’s accuse them of doing something they have not yet done…what country are we living in…

The artists should be thankful people share music or most of what they create would never be heard. Yes, I don’t think it is right to download entire collections without paying something for those songs. However, downloading one or two to see if you even like the music seems fair. After all, once we buy the CD and open it it cannot be returned unlike most other store-bought things. If we have to shell out $20 bucks for 10 songs or whatever the hell they are charging we, as consumers, should be given some leeway when it comes to downloading music within reason.

If they [record labels] would compromise on this issue instead of being heavy-handed about it perhaps more people would get on board and come to a fair medium…until then it will always be a ‘cat & mouse game”.

Peace…

Let’s face it, the days when Pink Floyd wrote “Have a Cigar” are long gone.

And the record company people (all middle men) are scared stiff. Those $50,000 wild parties they used to throw at music buyers expense are but a distant memory. Those boys will just have to learn to survive on a living wage like the rest of us working-class folks.

Reality “bites” the entertainment industry! Might make a great concept for a new Pink Floyd album (that’s a CD for you young-ins).

I heartily agree with you! I have not purchased a CD in over a year now but purchase single tracks for 0.99 on-line frequently. I am slowly getting rid of my CD collection because it wastes so much space (I save the MP3s to DVDs now and get a whole lot more onto one disc than with the piddly-assed CDs). Tell the record companies to shove their CDs up their collective asses!

Much has been made in the media this week about the news that the Recording Industry of America (RIAA) has announced, through one of their lawsuits, that they now consider it illegal for you to copy music from a CD you have purchased to your own computer, for your own personal use. The one thing that everyone seems to be overlooking is that the RIAA has not said this at all. In fact, they have explicitly stated that they are not concerned with people copying music to their computer (or iPod, or other personal MP3 player) for their own personal use

They has surly lost they mind.I guest artist will just lose money.Nobody is going to tell me what to do with my property.If i purchase my cd,it’s mine.And if i rip it to my computer,it’s my business.I like music on my computer.It’s cool not having to put a cd in everytime i want to hear music.I rip different songs off cd’s i like.Because some cd there’s only certain songs i really like.I paid good honest money for my computer and for my collection of cd’s.Leave me alone.We’ll just stop buying cd’s.Tell the artists to stop singing,because we not buying any more cd’s.I’am not sharing hundreds of songs.I’am minding my own business with my own property that i purchase.

Not a big fan of RIAA myself…
But do want to explain sumthin’.

You own the CD but artists own the copyright…
You did not purchase the right to copy.

Not like that’s gonna stop me or anyone else

This makes me feel like a stupid. I’ve bought the LP version (yes I am that old) of Pink Floyd’s “The Wall”; then the cassete (to listen in my car); then went to see the movie, and of course got the VHS, LD and DVD version. Now am I supposed to go to iTunes and purchase the album again?

Thanks, but paying 6 times for the same music makes me feel VERY stupid. I already ripped off my entire CD collection to my PC, and the hell with lawyers.

I think if the RIAA gets serious about this, Apple and Microsoft will get into the fight for us. Without being able to rip music to put on our iPods and Zunes, those 2 companies stand to loose a good chunk of money.

In response to a previous poster; Most of the musicians I know (and I know quite a few) don’t care about illegal downloading. In fact; most of them do it, right along with everyone else (meaning some of the doctors, lawyers, and Indian chiefs I ALSO know). Oh, they DO like to get paid for what they do. But most of my musician friends see the music industry AS A WHOLE as being nothing more than a massive ad agency existing to feed off of their creations.

C’mon… you guys learned this game in kindergarten:

CIVILIZATION
Object of the game: Get Rich.
Rules of the game: 1) Don’t Lie; 2) Don’t Cheat; 3) Don’t Steal; 4) Don’t Kill; 5) Don’t Screw The Boss’ Wife (optional).
Gameplay: Covet everything you see, hear, taste, smell, and feel. Create multi-million dollar contracts! Find hidden loopholes! Amass great hordes of wealth, power, and property. Lie, cheat, steal, and murder your way to success! And do whatever it takes to avoid prosecution and imprisonment in this winner-take-all consumer feeding frenzy!

- When LP players were introduced, several of the companies tried to get laws passed that only media they sold could be used on their machines; ie, I could not play RCA audio LPs on a GE LP player.

- early in the days of re-writable CDs, late ’80s, I ran across several comments that the cost of media included a ‘piracy tax’ since ‘everyone’ (the RIAA) knew that the only use for them was to rip audio CDs.

- when I purchase an audio CD (or a software program), I/you/we ‘own’ the physical media; the content is leased. Software legalese usually says the media is guaranteed to be defect free; the software side of the document is more accurately describable as a dis-claimer of useability.

- ‘Fair Use’ provisions of copyright law have been under attack forever. The DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) has added a lot of really draconian penalties for even discussing how to bypass Copy Protection measures.

If, as I have recently heard, the RIAA is trying to outlaw any/all copying, all they have to do is ‘hire’ enough congress people to get such a law enacted. While new laws occasionally allow for current/prior usage to be ‘grand-fathered’ in, this is not guaranteed.

Given the provisions of the DMCA, be afraid, be very afraid.

I copy of all my CD’s that I bought onto my computer so that if the CD gets damaged I have a backup copy and have been doing so since CD burners were first available. I also make a copy of the CD cover as proof and save it in the folder with the songs. I do not trade or share my music unless it if from an artist who says to go for it.

The computer software I buy allows me to make a backup copy so whats the difference.

The legal system can choose to play whore for the RIAA if they like, but they will only succeed in increasing disrespect and disregard for the legal system…not stopping and music ripping. The legal system is like an ant standing in front of an approaching herd of stampeding elephants..it can try and yell STOP all it wants..and it may even bite one or two elephants..but eventually it will arouse such contempt for the law that it will spawn reprisals. I think innately all people know that the intellectual property laws in the USA are a farce..trying to treat intellectual property the same as physical property is obviously absurd..and no amount of marble columned buildings or black robes will make it otherwise. The core problem is that when you sell physical property..you lose it..but intellectual property is a “have your cake and eat it to” philosophy..they want to sell it..but yet still keep it.

Funny how you can use a Video recorder/ dvd recorder to record shows off TV, but try to make a copy of a cd, so the original can be stored away safely from being damaged or scratched, and you get fined or even jailed.
I think here in Australia, the law indicates that you can make a copy of media, as long as it’s in a different format.
I keep all my music on it’s own HDD so it’s a lot more convenient to find instead of hunting through all those cd cases (of which half the time the cd’s aren’t in their correct cases) for eg: 1 song. Whereas, on my computer, I can just do a quick search, and bang, there’s the song i want.

I OWN MY CD, I DO WHAT I WANT WITH IT.
If I decide to use a cd as a frisbee, am i liable for damages? Seeing as it “BELONGS” to the recording companies. lmao

So who’s the bigger pirate??? Someone who copies/downloads some tracks from the internet, therefore depriving a band of a few £££’s ($$$’s), or the RIAA who sues those people for £X000’s ($X000’s) and doesn’t pay a single penny (cent) to the band???

Morally, I see that as as thievery, plain and simple!!!

If I purchase only the right to listen to the music, then I should be able to swap that right from one media to another (let’s say vinyl to CD) and only have to pay the five or ten cents that it costs to stamp the CD. After all I already “own” and paid for the right to listen to the music. Oh, yes, I would need to surrender the vinyl to RIAA upon receipt of the CD. Wouldn’t want illegal copies of the music without paying for the right.